Marcy Carsey

And the writers and the director at the time, who was a huge fan of mine, her name was Ellen Falcon, they all wanted me.

But Marcy Carsey said she didn't know enough of my work and wanted to have open auditions.

So when I tell you everything about Ron Johnson, from the hat, the glasses, the mustache, all of that was mine, and it went out in the breakdowns.

And they opened it up to everybody, and I reme- I mean, everybody and their mother who worked in television came in to audition for the role that I had created.

I had to earn it back.

Um, and ultimately, I was the last one they brought in, and I'll never forget it.

It was Marcy Carsey, Alan Falcan, Robbie Reed, and Kadeem.

And we read the role, Kadeem and I.

He's got this like longer hair and beard.

I was gonna say that even you notice Carsey in this game.

There's a little bit of, a little bit of goatee renaissance in the team, isn't there?

Yeah.