Is Boston better off keeping or trading him at this point?

That's, to me, it's not even a tough question.

We talking about one of the guys that carried this team, that's been the longest tenured Celtic on the team, and I, you know, I had the privilege to play with him and, and JT and watch these guys grow up, right? This, this is a mature young fella in this league.

He's in his prime right now.

I don't know if you can actually go out on the market and find a better player that plays defense and offense at the highest level, being a great two-way player.

He's a leader.

He's a motivator.

Go ahead

Which outcome is more likely, the Knicks win game five or the Spurs force a game seven? What do you think, Marcus?

I think you just said everything we needed to hear, right? Like this team has been battle-tested.

And then when you look at just the landscape of the sport and what I've seen throughout these five games, right, I don't know if San Antonio can throw something else at them.

that the knicks won't be able to be able to figure out and make a real in-game adjustment what we've seen they've been down double digits every game of this series and the game is not it hasn't been over i don't know if san antonio can even close out the series and we're looking at a team that's been on the road time at the time at the time in the game in a closeout game and destroyed the other team.

This is a younger team than the teams that we've been talking about.

We talking about Cleveland, Philly.

These are teams with real veteran leadership.

How concerned would you be, either one of you here, Marcus, why don't you go first, if the Knicks do lose game five in San Antonio?

Go ahead, Marcus.

Yeah, I'm piggybacking off of what Keith said.

The great- one of the greatest teams, I, I can't put my finger on that, but this playoff run has been...

Like, just watching the landscape of after that game four in Atlanta, they really just swept the rest of the East and it, and it wasn't easy because you have to go to Philadelphia, our hometown, where we know Joel Embiid, future Ha- Hall of Famer, Paul George on the cusp of that, Maxey-

Yeah

... and, and sweep them.

Not even, like, not even...

It wasn't even, like, close, right? And then you go to Cleveland, same way.

What's it like playing at Madison Square Garden?

It's like playing on the biggest stage in wherever, right? When you think about the Garden, it's star-studded.

So for me, it's not that I'm nervous playing there.

It's like, wow.

You see all the stars on the sideline.

The thing about the Knicks, though, what they do so well is they bring in all the legends.

That makes such a big difference, right? When you look around the NBA, no other team is rocking like that.

going to let you go first.

shit

was hilarious.

Okay, why? Hey, let me just say this, because I done had the conversation with this motherfucker over like three or four times, and I apologized.

So I told him I wasn't apologizing no more.

What happened was that...

You know, when you're in the league, you kind of, like, try to be a tough guy, right? You're trying to stick on the team.

So, like, you want to stand out a little bit.

you feel you don't have the G14 classification?

Thank you for hanging with us.

Friday night is D-day.

(laughs) Friday night is D-day.

That's, that's their season.

Yeah.

If they get down three, one, they're not gonna win the series.

Now, if they get it to two, two, they go back to being the favorite.

But Friday night, it's their game.

Go ahead, Marcus.

Two things.

Wh- why...

I, I just don't understand this.

You still haven't used that word superstar when we talking about Haliburton.

Like, I, I, I, I'm still confused at why you're not giving him that nudge.

Secondly, yes, this team is not predicated on him scoring 30 points.

That's the point.

Oklahoma City on another level.

Man, a- and it's crazy because my brother, um, he told me, like, "Yo, if Oklahoma City gets to the Western Conference Finals, they're gonna breeze through." He said this was only going five games.

It went five games.

He, he just, he, he just knew.

There was something he knew about it that, that I didn't.

And, uh, from watching it, I understood now, like, from him actually seeing them all season, what he believed and, and what he's seen.

So, I mean, I just didn't think it would go like that.

They're all over him.

Yeah.

...

if he, if the, you know, that he was giving what the defense presented him.

He was making the right passes.

Yes, that's perfectly fine, but you're Ant Man.

You have to be offensively aggressive and miss or make, yes, take your hats off to OKC, but they didn't present anything different really than what they've done the first three games.

So I didn't see the fact that he say he didn't struggle, which I, I, I can agree.

(laughs)

You going Brunson or Bodega, KAT?

I'm going the Big Bodega.

Uh, Brunson is gonna beat Brunson.

He has been Brunson the entire playoffs.

You don't have to guess at what he's going to do.

23 points, he only played 30 minutes last, last night.

He was in foul trouble, he was 10 for 10 from the free throw line and he closed the game with the big bucket at the end.

Yeah.

(coughs)

...

if this were the finals, for example, and it was Minnesota versus New York, which I think most people would love, uh, it wouldn't just be Ant Man, it would be the Karl-Anthony Towns-Julius Randle angle, since they were swapped, essentially, for one another.

And so, you would look at it from that standpoint.

In this particular instance, considering the greatness of Jalen Brunson compared to a guy in Tyrese Haliburton, who I believe the Knicks should've drafted years ago instead of OB Toppin.

No disrespect to OB Toppin, but the New York Knicks didn't have a point guard at the time, and I thought they needed Haliba- Haliburton, fell- uh, uh, ladies and fellas.

And so, that was my thinking.

(clears throat)

A team's worst player can all but cancel out the impact of its best player." What are your thoughts on that overall concept about the NBA becoming more of a, a weak link sport?

Um, you know, I don't know.

Mm, I can't fully say a weak link sport, but I definitely do see some similarities in what he's saying, right? Like you, you have these players that are like just mass- massive on, on the game, right? It's l- let's take an example.

You got Luka Doncic, he's a just tremendous offensive player, right? Like just, just hands down one of the best offensive talents we have seen to be able to win.

The way he manipulates the game, his feet work, his pace, right? But defensively he's just not good.

Like he's just not good.

I don't know whether it's him trying, him wanting to actually be good defensively.

Doesn't, doesn't have a title.

Draymond will have to hold them down defensively, but if the whole team plays together, I think the Warriors eat this one out.

Yeah, and I gotta agree with both of you guys.

I mean, I think it will be a really tough game.

I, like, I really like the Grizzly.

Like, the wide ends, they really come into play, right? Like, they're gonna be excited, they're gonna be ready to go.

But listen, Steph Curry, Jimmy Buckets, Draymond Green, I think they get it.

They, they understand the importance of winning this game, getting more rest.

Okay, Marcus, starting with you, how much blame does KD deserve for the Suns' failed season?

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Yeah.

Uh, Marcus, do you agree that Jokic is a ready top 20 player all time?

We laughed about this off screen and, you know, I wasn't really counting his three MVPs, but I'm still not gonna say he's top 20 right now, right? His body of work is definitely impressive.

The game has changed completely since Jokic been in the game.

I don't see top 20.

And that's not no, not to him, 'cause what he's doing is special.

He's transcended the game, the way he can pass, the way he can tr- control the game, how hard it is to guard him on the post.

But top 20 right now, nah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, you can curse.

I'm like, "What the (beep)? How, how, how is (beep) Luka Doncic traded? Like, does that even make sense?" So now, when he said the Lakers, I said, "You going to the Lakers, right?" He said, "Hell yeah, I'm going to the Lakers." And I'm thinking to myself, "Bro, you know, you might just have won another championship?" Like literally, you really might just have won a championship. And the part about it that I think a lot of people don't see is that Keefe and Luka has a really good relationship, like a really good relationship. So, I think that they probably noticed that and they wanted, you know what I mean, Luka to feel, you know, to feel better to go into a new place where you have somebody that's, you know, that's been a teammate also during Vinnie Smith, he's been a teammate of him, and then, uh, Max Kleber. You know, he's been injured, so no one really talking about him. Um, I think the dynamic of that really helped, and also Keefe played there. So, the Lakers really wanted him to come. Bron asked for him to come. So it was like, the dynamic, once I sat in back and thought about it, I was like, "It actually might help your career now. It might give you a breth- breath of fresh air." Uh, we doing a little media thing with the podcast, so it might actually help, right? And the entire time, I just couldn't put my finger on why the (beep) would they trade Luka Doncic.

(laughs)

... take you back when I seen Michael Finley take that beer out of his hand. And I don't, I know a lot of people might not have looked at that, but as a player, I didn't like how that looked, right? Like, we just won, we celebrating, I have a beer, it's cameras, and you kind of take that away from me, it's like almost you're trying to like, hint at something, right? And I did, I di- as a player at that stature, I didn't, I didn't agree with that. I didn't agree how they, they kind of tried to paint that picture. So now, fast-forward, you kind of painting that picture the entire time that he has a drinking problem, that he's overweight, right? And I don't feel as though as that has anything to do with his play. Yes, he was injured. A lot of players get injured all the time.... a lot of players take a long time to come back. But his production level is through the roof. So how do you h- like, how do you sum up, "Okay, it's time to trade this guy"? Like, how, how does that come to your mind? And then, not only that you trade him, you trade him (laughs) to the LA Lakers, a team that you have to see every (censored) year, four times a year, in the playoffs. So what do you think is about to happen when he goes to the Lakers? You think he's gonna be... Who you th- he's gonna be Luka Doncic.20.