Marcia Kilgore

You touched on it a bit earlier, but can you talk about kind of what that was like and how...

You know, working directly with Bobby to build that into a household name, because I kind of feel like I've spent my whole career working for some of the best female founders from Charlotte Tilbury to Marcia Kilgore to Lisa Eldridge.

And I know kind of that vision and how important it is to really kind of work with the founder to take their vision through.

And I'm so interested in how that was in working with Bobby to build that into a household name.

I think some of those do land really well.

Marcia Kilgore's point about communication is one I'd give to almost any leader or employee, regardless of where they are in their career.

She says, and I, I genuinely love this, "Listen to what's being asked and take a breath or five before responding.

Your response doesn't have to be immediate, but it does have to be considered." So it's not aspirational noise.

So there's nothing wrong with being a founder, a CEO, or a business owner.

Charlotte Tilbury's bought- built a beauty empire.

Marcia Kilgore has launched a multiple global brands.

Charlie Nunn runs Lloyds Banking Group.