Marc C. Ginsberg

George W. Bush, on the other hand, sees value in vouchers, and insists that they do be allowed should the local and state governments decide yay on those, uh, options.

We have on board with us right now, former ambassador to Morocco, Ambassador Marc Ginsberg, old friend of the show.

Ambassador, welcome back.

Uh, it's good to be back.

Just to give you one off the top of my head, he was up there saying, um, that, uh, pharmaceutical companies spend more money on, uh, on advertising than they do on research.

Well, just go to the Kaiser Family Fund or any of those independent organizations, and you find, you just think for yourself, that's simply not true.

You know what, uh, Cliff, I'll tell you, and, uh, Ambassador Marc Ginsberg, uh, foreign policy advisor to Al Gore, uh, I, I, I will go to you in just a second, sir.

But Cliff, I gotta remind you of one thing, and, and I did ask, uh, uh, Representative Bonilla about it when I had both he and Lieutenant Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend on for the first half of the show.