Marc-André Leclerc

Yeah.

I don't know if you ever saw the alpinist, like Marc-Andre Leclerc.

Like he was like 15 and he just like, I'm going to start climbing.

He just would just do his nearby stuff.

yeah some of that shit's crazy

to me you know me it is and but the b-boying now that's happening with these kids they're just it's not rebellious but it it's just it's so good it's such a high level things have changed so much yeah but i think um I think Mark Andre Leclerc was rebellious in his own way, the free solo climber.

Oh, yeah.

Some of those people, they're kind of in their own way.

You know, it's like if that's the drive that's there, who am I to say what you should be doing with it? I mean, if you look at-- Like, we see this, unfortunately, in the mountaineering world.

I feel like Marc-André Leclerc, if you watch "The Alpinist," I think he had a bit of a similar drive where it's like, "I'm just gonna keep doing these things." I don't think he necessarily-- I don't think anyone necessarily has, like, an injury wish or a death wish or something like that, but I do think that there's a certain risk capacity that certain people have that is beyond, quote-unquote, "normal." And those people are fascinating.

And the thing is, I think they'd be-- that applying that risk to other parts of their life, or it would be channeled a different, different way.

Sometimes I think with athletes or people like this, you know, for whatever reason, they picked running, they picked alpinism, they picked swimming.