Māngere East

yeah.

Well, you come back here, and you get to Mangere East, so how did that come

about? And what year is this? What year is the week? Oh, no.

We're talking 68 and 69.

So he wasn't going to go any further until he told him.

Mangere, Mangere East.

And, you know, I'm an Otahu, right, which has got a lot of old families that are quite well established, the league club, but more of a Danny Burke feeling town back then, you know, not quite as new as Otara.

Mangere East, a bit rugged, quite rugged.

So, okay, solo mum, you know, white boy solo mum in Mangere East.

Everything made sense to me at that point.

Yeah.