So what did you think about all of that?

I think Jen is incredibly immature and not in tune with what's going on with her children, and that's just from what I've seen on TV.

Like she could be absolutely fantastic.

We, we saw she was very, very good with the young child that was adopted.

However, I remember if it was last season or the season before, when the o- one of the other sons went away to the Marines, he's like, "Oh my God, what are we gonna do with Grayson? He's so close to you.

It's gonna be so hard for him." So she knew that it was gonna be hard for him.

She also this episode asked him about his job at In-N-Out Burger and was like, "Do you do the orders?" Like she just seems like she doesn't know what he's doing.

Yes.

Mandy, what have you been thinking or feeling about

OC this season? So it's hard because one of my favorite housewives is on the show and one of my least favorite housewives is on the show.

And it's a- Do tell.

So Tamara Judge is very difficult for me.

I just do not enjoy watching her.

I always know that at some point she could go as low as low can be and have no remorse.

And it's just really hard.

Respect,

What do you think about Real Housewives of Rhode Island overall?

So I think it was an incredible first season, possibly the best first season we've ever had of any Real Housewives show.

When something like that, like magic occurs, nobody should get fired, and I can't stand when people are like, "Get rid of Rula.

Get rid of Rosie.

Get rid of whoever." I'm like, "No, they all come back.

They did great." And I think the dynamics are really interesting, and so there's some, like, unlikely duos I could imagine.

I could see Kelsey and Rosie actually getting to know each other and liking each other.

That's-

Which I was like, come on,

dude.

Really, really crappy.

That is so gross.

And I could tell that that had happened by the way that Rosie reacted to...

Sure.

Kelsey I thought that it was an overreaction and she couldn't take a joke and at the same time I understand why she couldn't take a joke because this was like the very very final nail in the coffin for her she was over it she was pissed off she was sick of them bringing stuff up a lot of it I don't think ever aired of the stuff that they were doing and questioning her about When Joellen said that Rosie was in this police report with the coach that had a DUI and then could not produce the police report and had never seen the police report, I am sorry.

You know what?

I forgot

... crazy story is, is many years ago when my dad first moved in with Joyce in Minnesota, I guess a, a letter that went to him or went to Joyce or something like that ended up in the neighbor's mailbox.

And so the neighbor had, like, something addressed to Slutsker on their kitchen counter, and their daughter was home visiting.

And the daughter was like, "Slutsker? Wait, are there Slutskers next door?" And then when she delivered it, she's like, "Hey, are you related to Mandy Slutsker?" [laughs]

Yeah

... just was melting down on the internet, and despite, and despite her bosses and despite Andy and other people saying, "Please stop," she did not stop, and I think it's 'cause she couldn't stop, and it felt very compulsive, and it was very worrying 'cause I don't know...

And again, maybe she has some other issue that, like, this flared it up.

But seeing people act so different than you know them to be on the internet, it feels like it's its own category of whatever, or, like, a subcategory.

I could not-

... another really crazy story is, is many years ago when my dad first moved in with Joyce in Minnesota, I guess a, a letter that went to him or went to Joyce or something like that ended up in the neighbor's mailbox.

And so the neighbor had, like, something addressed to Slutsker on their kitchen counter, and their daughter was home visiting.

And the daughter was like, "Slutsker? Wait, are there Slutskers next door?" And then when she delivered it she's like, "Hey, are you related to Mandy Slutsker?" [laughs] My step-mom was like, "Yeah, you know, that's, like, my step-daughter." And she goes, "Oh, I listen to her pod-" And then she's like, "Oh," my step-mom was like, "Oh, do you know her blog?" [laughs] Like-

Yeah

... just was melting down on the internet.

And despite, and despite her bosses and despite Andy and other people saying, "Please stop," she did not stop.

And I think it's 'cause she couldn't stop, and it felt very compulsive.

Right, when you're isolated

isolatedBut like he does need for his wellbeing to go fishing.

And I know that sounds crazy, right? But I don't think it's any different than like a mom who's a new mom who's really into pottery, like going back to the pottery studio, or dancing again, or going back to Pilates, or whatever makes them feel like themsel- or going back to work, right?

Yeah

...

Kristen knows that too, which is why she's not like, she's annoyed with him, but she's not...

And then when he, when sh- when they were at, at their date and she, um, there was a moment during her first trimester that she like was really acting kind of crazy, and he's like, "I can't do this anymore." And she took that as him wanting to leave, and he just, he was so shocked.

He's like, "I would never leave.

Mm-hmm

... you know, this, this, and this." Um, so yeah.

I, I guess I just, it makes it harder to have real conversations where you can get real answers from them because like Meredith was so rehearsed.

At, literally she'd be the perfect witness on a witness stand.

Every lawyer would love to have her on their side for cross-examination.

You can't get her.

She will not slip.

Yeah