So these don't sound like typical PE investments if you're investing in the idea stage pre PMF.

Yeah, so it's a yes and no.

So what we did is that being a risk, so it is partly VC and partly PE intersection of that.

The constant does not change, however.

So you asked me what is the thinking behind just not investing in great founders.

So there are essentially three or four things that really work.

The first one is obviously the team that you're backing in and that could be a founder or that could be a set of people.

So you were saying, how are you different than SBI or Sriram, these NBFCs, which you were, I guess, going to talk about the AI and the data layer.