Mahler Chamber Orchestra

So I...

I'm cellist in Mahler Chamber Orchestra, but I have been conducting for some 15, 18 years, something like that, when I first started conducting, taking lessons at the Musikhochschule in Vienna, which was then still Musikhochschule.

And I was...

You know, as a cellist, I was trained at the Juilliard School, so very kind of traditional.