Madison Cunningham

Islands in the Stream with Chaka Khan.

It Ain't Me, Babe with Madison Cunningham.

Be a Real Black for Me with Emily King and Liz Wright.

I Got You, Babe, another Bob Dylan song with Anoni.

decision? Totally.

I've been making an acoustic singer-songwriter album.

So that was really most of the reason, just like playing stuff off of that.

But yeah, I usually do bass.

I think there, I think there was one page of the lyrics that there's literally three songs on that particular page for lyrics.

Um, it's a stark contrast to, I just sent out lyrics for Madison Cunningham's record-

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... 'cause we're gonna do, we're gonna do that.

Michael Elizondo is a Grammy-winning producer, songwriter, bass player, and a musician who's had his hand in an incredible amount of music over the years.

He's worked with Dr. Dre, Eminem, Carrie Underwood, Mary J. Blige, Fiona Apple, John Batiste, Madison Cunningham, Lin-Manuel Miranda, and so many more.

He's pretty awesome.

Yeah.

You're so spellbound when you watch her and Dave Rawlings perform.

As far as specific songs, I was thinking last night, what would I say was one of my favorite sad songs? And I put on my list a song by Madison Cunningham.

It's called Life According to Rachel.

If you don't know this song and you have loved a grandmother in your life...

it is a don't listen to it in front of anyone like go somewhere alone with a box of tissues and listen to Life According to Rachel it's beautiful

that was one of Sara Bareilles' too she just mentioned it Madison Cunningham's been coming up a lot she's been coming up so much

we had Andrew Bird on and they did an album together and then a lot of people have been citing her you need to

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Like I, I haven't, I never really read about how to write a song or didn't have any like explicit instruction.

And I think in terms of just like the lyrics themselves, it's just only ever been like what sort of has come out of me like I I want it's like well on my to-do list of like I want to learn how to write songs I've written many many many songs but it's like I want to I want to learn like what are the ideas there was like I don't know you know that beautiful artist Madison Cunningham she did this there was like a songwriting course she just did and like oh I would have done it but it's like my kids are eating during that time or whatever it's like I couldn't do that thing But for me, I think just because I don't have any training or explicit instruction, it's just sort of coming out as these, I guess, very honest themes of what I'm thinking about.

Because what else am I supposed to write about? It's like...

You know, whereas like another person might actually have like learned about, they can choose someone else's story or choose something else and write about it.

... with that producer.

But yeah, worked with Madison Cunningham and many other folks in the LA scene for quite a while, uh, in the Americana genre.

But, um, so I got to meet Tyler when we were there working in the studio, and the first day that we were recording, um, Sean Watkins poked his head into the recording room and said, "Hey, what are you guys up to? What's going on?" [laughs]

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