Macromedia

But eventually what Micromedia did is that they added scripting tools to it.

Macromedia.

Was it? You're right.

Macros.

What was really cool about all of that is that even though I wasn't studying coding or app development or anything, It was that kind of end-to-end production process of like, okay, I have an idea or have a song.

I worked in multimedia direct, what is it, Adobe director? Macromedia director, I think it was at the time.

The precursor to Flash and like burned a CD-ROM that was like interactive.

And so there were a lot of projects-based classes that I ended up taking, which I think did actually prepare me for, to work on apps because you had to think end to end and kind of take something from you know a rough idea like a song on a napkin to like you know pressing it to a cd so not directly related but surprisingly relevant thinking back i even took a design class i took a like i was working in in design in the 90s so so but it was like one class so

And then I transitioned to tech.

I moved to San Francisco in the height of the dot-com boom and worked for shockwave.com, which was a spinoff of Macromedia showcasing Flash and Shockwave sites before I then got my first job actually working as a designer, which was at the Exploratorium, hands-on science museum in San Francisco.

And eventually went back to grad school because I realized that I needed to learn the craft a little bit more diligently.

So I did that at California College of the Arts, which very sadly is closing next year, and then worked a decade in the music industry.

essentially screen capture videos of what it was supposed to be like.

They were made with Macromedia Director.

So these are not interactive.

These are just like a video that plays, but they were like pixel precise frame by frame, kind of like a big animated GIF, but full size.

But I started with the Adobe.

I started with Macromedia products.

Like, I learned on Dreamweaver, like, when Dreamweaver was Macromedia.

And I used to write in Director.

So nobody paid me to do Director.

Yeah.

I was a paid Dreamweaver developer for a while as well.

So I definitely did some software in the Macromedia days.

You know, blind people didn't have a chance of accessing those, you know? And then the internet, you know, and the web came out in the '90s, and it was great when it was...

And this is my era, right? When it was just text in the beginning, but then quickly, you know, Macromedia, I don't know if you remember that, was created and-

Oh, yes

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