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And,

you know, obviously with the advent of AI and enhanced machine learning, you know, one's going to be in a situation that you can utilize that data to even a greater benefit.

But, you know, ultimately, Stephen, the benefit has to be for the consumer.

You know, you can't hoodwink people.

I do wonder if this opens up the space a little bit for a sort of realignment.

We'll speak to Dr. Imran Bakas, who's been studying this for a long time.

Bronwyn Williams, the future finance specialist at Flux Trends, she's looking at the book The Future of You Five Years On from machine-readable sources.

To Machine by Tracy Follows.

Three rooms full of tubes and motors and stroboscopes and several thousand miles of wiring and some devices that are not public property yet.

The machine took six years to build and a total of 81 expert technicians were employed continuously during that time.

So you can understand that any one man knows very little of the actual construction of this giant mechanical brain.

So that's just what it is.

Does this machine really think No, Mr., uh...

Burns, Sandy Burns, the Daily News.

Well, Mr. Burns, you may tell the readers of the Daily News that the machine does not think.

It is a purely mechanical device, although a most complicated one.

Let's close with this book you wrote.

So this is The Goat and the Machine.

A goat does not care about your strategy.

It

He's been a writer for a number of different publications and now currently has a substack, which is named after the most recent book.

Or perhaps the book is named after the substack, but it's called Blood in the Machine, The Origins of the Rebellion Against Big Tech.

which was preceded by this other book called The One Device, The Secret History of the iPhone.

Welcome, Brian.

Everyone needs to check out The One Device, which is, I don't think it's going to age because it's a work of history.

It's fantastic.

And of course, this new book called Blood in the Machine, The Origins of the Rebellion Against Big Tech.

Thanks so much.

They were thinking building relationships, so they would take care of you.

Machine broke, they would come, they would fix it, they would do it so that you know what? The next time when you're looking to buy a machine, you say, "You know what? I'm gonna go with that machine because that, they took care of me." You know, a lot of times the reps, and I have a great relationship with the reps, right? The sales reps, that is.

And they will take care of you.

The problem is, if that sales rep leaves that company and goes somewhere else, there goes your deal, there goes your hookup, there goes your person that always looked out for you.

the long term.

Interviewed Professor Mendel for this podcast and talked about this course where we did kind of first principles like primary source research on and our team's project was on thinking machines and the connection machine, right? And so it turns out the first patent that Thinking Machines Corporation put out as I recall, it has both Minsky and Hillis on it, was for an AI robotic vacuum cleaner.

Which we still

don't have.