Hmm.

And in that article, obviously, I'm dealing with not a theory of the atonement, but a particular emphasis, way of understanding what Christ did on the cross and the significance of it within the Christus Victor framework.

In that, I shared a lot of kind of my own struggle with depression and anxiety and anxiety I partly located that in a substitutionary view, exclusively having a substitutionary view of the atonement, because where I had kind of landed with that is... at least the way I came, I came out of a framework that really, really emphasized substitutionary view.

And I, I, I understand like I'm on that side of the fence for sure.

And I understand why the biblical preponderance of the biblical evidence is on that side.

Right.

But there's also this Christmas Victor side that comes in and says, hold on.

Yeah.