Louise Milligan

We are very excited and perhaps the team is a bit nervous today to be diving into Helen Garner's The First Stone as well as Garner's other works.

And we're absolutely thrilled to be joined by award-winning investigative journalist Louise Milligan.

Welcome.

Hi.

So, yeah, it's been busy.

Well, look, I think a lot of our Australian listeners will know who you are, Louise, but for those listening from overseas, we'll introduce you properly.

So Louise Milligan is a Dublin-born, multi-award-winning investigative journalist for the ABC TV Four Corners program, a press freedom medalist and an author.

Her investigation for ABC TV and for her Walkley award-winning book Cardinal broke international news and led to her being a witness in the George Pell case.

And with us to help, starting off, are some people who are very interested in crime from quite a few different perspectives.

Louise Milligan, you will know as an award-winning... investigative journalist.

And she writes best-selling crime novels as well.

So her debut novel, Pheasant's Nest, did amazingly well.

Hilary Harper with you on 774 ABC Melbourne and ABC Victoria.

Let's talk crime.

Louise Milligan, have you always read crime novels, even before you started writing about and investigating crime? Yeah.

Not really, I must say.