Logotherapy

and he talks about the people that made it through that experience that completely dehumanized everybody and the people that didn't you know people that have had everything taken from them wives children their clothes their titles their money to where they were just this raw piece of consciousness just this consciousness being there and in his uh His declaration in this was that the people that can find a meaning, a meaning for the suffering that they're going through, that they can create a meaning, are the ones that can essentially endure the unimaginable.

And so he created something called Logotherapy as a result of that.

And I think that's like the main theme is the idea of just like what like what is the meaning of the suffering that you're going through? What can you construct a meaning that can anchor you to a place in the future where you can get through this like a lighthouse? Yeah.

And it's almost like that, you know, because I talk a lot about resourcing, resourcing of something that helps you go from one state to a better state.

Why is that considered so important? Why is this considered a greater challenge? It's number two, it's greater than the sin of, greater than the challenge of the furnace of more custom.

Viktor Frankl, the author of the psychological system called Logotherapy, he said that there's what and there's why.

When man, in his book, Man's Search for Meaning, he says, when you have a why, when man has a why, he can endure any what.

If you don't have a why of what you're doing, what your purpose is, then you get discouraged by any kind of what.

So the story is that-

Logotherapy for people is about meaning therapy.

Correct.

Finding meaning, that finding kind of happiness, balance, and wholeness through- Through meaning.

But that idea of like one day I might see my wife again was enough to keep people alive and motivated to survive in the camps.

So from that book was born Logotherapy.

It's not that popular anymore or, you know, not used, but the principles still hold where it's a really important part of humanity and healing and mental wellness to think about what gives you meaning, what gives your life meaning.

And there's all these different and a lot of these other kind of therapies will explore what your values are and the different potential sources where someone can discover their values.

You're a licensed marriage and family therapist.

And I've no idea who Victor Franklin is or Logotherapy.

So forgive my ignorance.

I'll put that out.

Really, both.

Logotherapy.

Yes, well, and both of them are basically getting at the question, which you don't, I would never teach to students because it's too harsh of a way of phrasing it, but what is it that keeps you from committing suicide? What is it that keeps, you know, like, it's the heart, it's the most, again, if we're, like, binary way of, what keeps you living? is the answer to what keeps you from dying at the hand of yourself, which is the ultimate freedom that we all possess.

And the answer is meaning.

But I love that you're remaining malleable in your position on that because it's, you know, it's like that meaning piece.

I mean, you had talked about that kind of harsh view on, like, how do we...

What was it? Logotherapy...

Viktor Frankl's, how do we not kill ourselves? I mean, this man survived the concentration camps.

'Cause at the time, he was, Freud, Freud told him, um, there was, the, the, his teachings were not well-received.

Logotherapy, the, the, it was not well-received.

And the Lubavitcher Rebbe had to give him, there's a story about it, the Lubavitcher Rebbe had to give him encouragement.

How the Lubavitcher Rebbe knew that he was going through this, that's a whole different story.

It literally changes your perspective on things.

And it's called, you know, the psychotherapist, but this is called logotherapy.

Logotherapy? Logotherapy.

You get therapy from logos?

What does

Now, obviously, this doesn't go along with if you're mentally unstable and if there's really...

Bad things happening.

Logotherapy is a meaning-centered form of psychotherapy developed by neurologist, psychiatrist, and Holocaust survivor Viktor Frankl.