Lloyd Howell Jr.

You know, had some great rep meetings and then my union career really took off at that point when I got elected a rep here.

And then last summer, summer of 2025, uh, we had the big kind of union crises where Lloyd Howell had to resign.

Um, JC Tretter had to resign and.

Literally a month before or whatever, that spring, I got elected to the executive committee.

It's just not in the context of how the major operations are going to be structured.

And you worked under two different executive directors, Dee Smith for the majority of your time, and then more recently for a shorter time, Lloyd Howell, who left the position after only two years.

What differences did you see in working with these two leaders?

Well, I'll talk about D Smith first and without sounding too like I'm too waxing poetical here about him, but his leadership style was really about maximizing our leverage.

It's really difficult when D was there for 15 years, signaled that he was ready to move on.

That leadership transition was hard.

Players decided they wanted to run a process that ultimately resulted in Lloyd Howell.

When I was there with Lloyd, I certainly did my best.