So it was fun to be able to, to train without being so caught up in what it all meant.

Yeah, it was really interesting to see like one of the things you just mentioned there, like your psychology of letting us down.

I never even considered that or thought that that would ever be a consideration.

I know like as a rider, that wasn't something that I... felt myself like um I was always worried about letting myself down but um I kind of I thought gosh you take on a lot if that's also something that you're thinking about as well as all your other responsibilities so I kind of tried to wipe that off the table really because all that we were interested in was seeing you do your best which um I mean you you blew it we can talk about the numbers a

And then it wasn't.

Yeah, but I think that's also with most riders, they're learning to stop before the body puts the brakes on so that you can gain that consistency.

So it's about missing the odd session where you need to and having a coach that supports you and doesn't make you feel like you failed, actually.

you've succeeded in listening to your body and the signals and registering that you're on the limit and you need to back off in order to have the consistency, not just the all on or off.

Like, are you in a rivalry with another coach, another country? Yes.

Yes.

That's one thing for sure.

Yeah.

No, I think probably that was a chink in my armor.

I have to admit as a, as an athlete, I wasn't as, I know it sounds ridiculous professional athlete, but I don't consider myself to be an overly competitive person.

I'm not a sore loser.

How do you think somebody like Pauline Ferrand-Pribault, you know, is changing racing now that she's back on the road? Any thoughts on that?