Lil Pump

That is the top of the top.

The table next to us was Lil Pump.

Oh yeah.

We got a better table than Jimmy O'Milda too.

You know, he got a lot of flack for what he put out there during 2020 about that situation.

And then, you know, I always think about the Lil Pump thing as a, as a, a social media situation too because of the interview that went down and went around.

So I think more than anything else, if you're not someone out there, like use Plies for example.

Plies has charisma, he is funny, and he has a message that he's on, right?

Right.

I remember in 2017 when he first followed me back, it was like I'm looking at his account, and every single rapper that I was around at that time, whether it was Smokepurpp or Lil Pump or X or whoever, they all followed either zero people or like four people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then I'm looking at Drake's profile.

Uh, he's always, he-

Ooh, you're ignoring that Lil Pump guy's a pedophile.

[laughs]

Ah.

Qué pelotas son los Illuminati.

Claro, Illuminati yo lo escucho a Anuel y a Lil Pump cantando: "Illuminati, Illuminati".

[ríen]

Exactamente, ¿qué es un Illuminati? Porque mucha gente dirá: "Eh, me está hablando de nivel treinta y tres", y yo realmente Illuminati sí, vale, controlan el mundo, pero...

... um, NLE Choppa.

Uh, yeah, so we had, you know, we had, we had a run and then, you know, before the streaming and SoundCloud bubble bursted, Lil Pump was like, psh.

Huge.

Like he-

he, he definitely w- I'd say within that era he was, he was the top, you know? And, uh-

Yeah

... and again, it just, it goes, it just goes to show how things kinda come full circle, right? Because I'm at Warner working Lil Pump, and he has a record with Kanye called I Love It.

Mm-hmm.

You've got Sexy Red, you've got Drake.

Lil Pump.

You've got Ed Sheeran, which everyone's kind of upset about, but, you know.

And Netanyahu.

You're just an advocate, so you're, you're trying to get attention.

So, you know, uh, Jake Paul would tweet out, "Free Kodak," and, and, um, and Lil Pump, uh, would tweet out, you know, "Free Kodak." We had, uh, so much overwhelming support because they knew the story behind it that I think it caught people's attention, and that's eventually how he ended up getting a commutation.

So did you and Trump have a personal conversation about this?

We never had a per- like a, a one-on-one.