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Sep 10, 2026

Tom LuongoSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
16:45
The unwinding of the Japanese yen carry trade is also a big part of that.
Tom LuongoSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
16:50
The inciting incident for me that really put me down that road was when we moved off of LIBOR to SOFR.
Tom LuongoSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
16:56
During Trump's first term, we started the process.
Tom LuongoSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
16:59
And then under Powell at the Fed, starting in 2021 with self-tightening and then with his second term, that's when we started putting gas on the fire and saying, no, this is it.
Tom LuongoSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
17:26
Exactly.
Tom LuongoSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
17:26
Do
RonHOST
17:27
you know the difference between LIBOR and SOFR?
Taylor JohnatakisHOST
17:30
LIBOR is the London Internet Bank Overnight Rate.
Andy SchectmanHOST
6:37
Maybe you can explain a little more clearly what you mean by that.
Andy SchectmanHOST
6:40
And where does the move from LIBOR to SOFR fit in? Did that essentially give the U.S.
Andy SchectmanHOST
6:45
more control over the price of dollars and take some of that power away from London and the offshore dollar system?
Tom LuongoGUEST
6:51
Yeah, that's the beginning of it, right? If this is a movie, that's the inciting incident.
Tom LuongoGUEST
7:01
And then, you know, if you, I'm a former amateur screenwriter, so I look at it and go, plot point number one then would be implementing SOFR.
Tom LuongoGUEST
7:10
The midpoint turn would be SOFR, would be Powell's second term where he starts raising interest rates after COVID.
Tom LuongoGUEST
7:16
and after the inflation from COVID and Trump is out of power and things look bad, but the point of no return was, because what, see, LIBOR, the London Interbank Offered Rate, which is now, you know, an anachronism, was, it was the system that allowed them to decide what the price of dollars was in the global markets.
Tom LuongoGUEST
7:37
So post-Bretton Woods, the build-out of the Eurodollar system was done, one, it was done on the back of the Japanese and the yen carry trade.
Pete QuiñonesHOST
25:22
independence.
Phil GibsonGUEST
25:25
Except not really until 2022, because that's when we switched away from LIBOR to SOFR.
Phil GibsonGUEST
25:32
What that word salad basically is means is that city of London has always ran American monetary policy, meaning even after like world war II, when British pound was no longer the world reserve currency, we were now it was King dollar.
Phil GibsonGUEST
25:50
They still controlled our price of dollars.
Phil GibsonGUEST
25:54
And that was through LIBOR.
Phil GibsonGUEST
25:55
It was just an indexing rate that, Your credit card, your mortgage, your auto loans, any revolving credit, that was all tied to LIBOR.
Phil GibsonGUEST
26:03
LIBOR, if you Google it, Google LIBOR scandal, it was bullshit.
Phil GibsonGUEST
26:07
It was a central planning, commie, we're going to make economics as fake and gay as possible sort of scheme, as you can imagine.
Phil GibsonGUEST
28:17
Until 2022.
Phil GibsonGUEST
28:20
Because that's when we switched away from LIBOR to SOFR.
Phil GibsonGUEST
28:23
What that word salad basically is means is that city of London has always ran American monetary policy, meaning even after like World War II, when British pound was no longer the world reserve currency, we were now it was King dollar.
Phil GibsonGUEST
28:41
They still controlled our price of dollars.
Phil GibsonGUEST
28:45
And that was through LIBOR.
Phil GibsonGUEST
28:46
It was just an indexing rate.
Phil GibsonGUEST
28:48
Your credit card, your mortgage, your auto loans, any revolving credit, that was all tied to LIBOR.
Phil GibsonGUEST
28:55
LIBOR, if you Google it, Google LIBOR scandal, it was bullshit.
David AxtellHOST
11:18
In Europe, the European Market Infrastructure Regulation, known as EMEA, established broadly equivalent requirements, clearing obligations for standardized instruments, trade reporting to approve repositories, and risk mitigation requirements for anything left uncleared.
David AxtellHOST
11:34
And running alongside all of this has been the transition away from LIBOR, the London Interbank Offered Rate, following evidence that panel banks had manipulated it.
David AxtellHOST
11:43
That transition has moved differently by currency.
David AxtellHOST
11:46
US dollar LIBOR moved principally to SOFA.
David AxtellHOST
11:49
Sterling moved to SONIA.
David AxtellHOST
11:51
Other currencies have their own overnight alternatives.
Martin ShkreliHOST
61:17
I'm pretending I am, but I'm just merely kind of showing you what a macro hedge fund does.
Martin ShkreliHOST
61:22
Now, there's things like LIBOR and swaps that trade on LIBOR, floating rate versus fixed rate swaps.
Martin ShkreliHOST
61:28
I actually... pasted this thing from ICAP, which you can actually look at, and then also this academic study.
Martin ShkreliHOST
61:35
And again, if you have any trouble finding this, there's a link in the description box and I'll post it again.
Martin ShkreliHOST
61:39
So there's all kinds of things you could do with respect to the yield curve, or you can make direct interest rate bets.
Martin ShkreliHOST
61:46
Again, LIBOR and the Eurodollar are floating and fixed rates that you can trade around.
Martin ShkreliHOST
61:51
There's options on these swaps.
Martin ShkreliHOST
61:53
These are all generally called swaps.
Stormy WatersGUEST
30:23
Because I've had conversations like-- other side.
Stormy WatersGUEST
30:27
Um, Pete sat in on- Uh, one of, uh, one of the conference, series of conference calls I host, right? Uh, well, we take turns hosting, right? And one of those, uh, actually one of the, one of the two women that were on the call, uh, she was a former Fed governor, and she was on the LIBOR committee.
Stormy WatersGUEST
30:53
This woman is probably in her seventies.
Stormy WatersGUEST
30:57
And, you know, this woman should know more about global capital markets than anyone in the world.
Stormy WatersGUEST
31:21
"Yes.
Stormy WatersGUEST
31:21
Yes, it is." And I was like, "Okay.
Stormy WatersGUEST
31:24
And all those offshore dollars, they're indexed to LIBOR, right?" And she goes, "Yeah, of course.
Stormy WatersGUEST
31:30
Of course they are.
speaker_3GUEST
33:41
And one of those, uh, actually one of the, one of the two women that were on the call, uh,
Stormy WatersGUEST
33:46
She was a former Fed governor and she was on the LIBOR committee.
Stormy WatersGUEST
33:52
This woman is probably in her seventies and you know, this woman should know more about global capital markets than anyone in the world.
Stormy WatersGUEST
34:03
And I asked her one day and I
Stormy WatersGUEST
34:20
Yes, it is.
Stormy WatersGUEST
34:21
And I was like, okay.
Stormy WatersGUEST
34:23
And all those offshore dollars, they're indexed to LIBOR, right? And she goes, yeah, of course, of course they are.
Stormy WatersGUEST
34:30
What else would they be? What else would they be indexed on? And I was like, okay.

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