Liberty Square

And what I mean by that is, like, did the company know that they wanted to build Villains Land at Magic Kingdom and, as they've said, really lean into this idea of villains and, and make it a little bit of a scarier, maybe less family-friendly area, quote-unquote, and also recognizing that if they did that, it needed some kind of separation from the rest of the park.

So I have to wonder if that is kind of what started this, right? And so if they, if they knew they were going to build that way, um, in the back there behind essentially where Rivers of America was, you have the intersection of Frontierland, Liberty Square, and Fantasyland that come together, and do you just create some sort of path that makes its way back there, or do you need something else that creates a little bit of a transition or maybe helps even block part of Villains Land from view?

That's inter- That is not something I've thought about, 'cause part of this structure is going to be pretty tall.

And that's what I...

I think if you start to think about what might potentially help, right, with sight lines and things like that, maybe they said, "Okay, we need something that will be a little bit taller." And, you know, maybe they wanted it to fit into Frontierland.

Maybe, you know, Fantasyland expanding in an even bigger way wasn't necessarily on the table.

And Liberty Square, although I like the idea, I don't know what you add to that in this modern era.

So if they think, "Okay, maybe we need to tack on something that sort of is an extension of Frontierland," right? Because this is, it's different.

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It says, "A limited time pop-up is coming to the Diamond Horseshoe in Liberty Square."

In Liberty Square.

It is ...

Are we not in Frontierland at this point?

I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

Right.

It looks good, but it's just, it's a weird assortment of food at a weird location that, [laughs] that Disney is calling Liberty Square.

Remember, this would open in 1971, so just a few years before the bicentennial, and this became the land to hold the Walt Disney World version of the Haunted Mansion.

Liberty Square we know is inspired by life in the original 13 colonies.

Mm-hmm.

This led Imagineers to be inspired by New York's Hudson River Valley, home of Sleepy Hollow and the Headless Horseman, which we remember was a concept for-

Um, it, well, so that, and, but that's a perfect point, and we're talking about all these adjacent lands.

Like in Magic Kingdom, um, you've really got Liberty Square that's right there.

You do.

You did.

Kinda like you're going from the city out to the frontier.

Right.

Um, a- and so yeah, and, and, you know, those are both lands that, uh, I mean, is it, is it really fair to call Liberty Square, like I know technically it's land.

Right.

Walls to our left.

Liberty Square to our right.

Which is also where the music is that you can't hear because it's facing the other direction.

And it's covered by walls on this

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Um, and I would probably do that, and that just kinda puts me in, like, the, the Adventureland, Frontierland, Liberty Square-

Yeah

... area.