Libby Schaaf

And I think the volume of people they put that in front of, you know, very easily.

One of them talks about how it's a picture of, I think, Lauren Ignacio de la Fuente and Libby Schaaf on it.

Tying Lauren to Libby is something that they did throughout the election.

Mm-hmm.

And then they're like, no, she doesn't want to go on there with Sean Wilson.

And I'm like, why? Why? Because he swears a lot or anything? No.

And if you remember that there was these mailers were going out to recall Libby Schaaf.

Remember those?

And relevant.

And finally, Libby Schaaf, the former mayor of Oakland.

We have some East Bay fans or some Libby Schaaf fans in the room.

And currently, is it CEO? Is that the title? CEO of the Bay Area Council, which is a group of the Bay Area's largest employers, which I also think is very relevant to the conversation of the American dream or of income inequality issues.

And at some point, Libby, I'll ask you to talk about the academic-ish experience that you had in between those two experiences, because Libby wanted me to know that and you to know that she's five months into the job of Bay Area Council.

Good morning.

We've got Libby Schaaf, president and CEO of the Bay Area Council, and also importantly for this show, former mayor of Oakland.

Welcome.

Good morning.

So it's basically the and ridership is like it is mentioned, has not come back to where we're at about for AC transit, about 80 percent of where we were post pre-COVID.

Hmm.

Libby Schaaf, with your Bay Area Council hat on here, why is Bay Area Council interested in this? I mean, Bay Area Council, for those who don't know, is kind of the big business representatives here in the Bay Area.

Well, I would say we're the civic voice of business, Alexis.