Les McKeown

The role is they were like a lot of British men were then, scrawny, skinny, pale men.

you know their parents probably hadn't eaten enough during the war so and secondly the outfits that they wore they were all made of tartan and they were apparently I think they were actually run up on Les McKeown's dad his dad was a tailor I think he ran them up himself on his sewing machine and you know whereas when you look at what boy bands wear now and BTS I'm sure you know decked out in Versace and you know and um and gucci so that wasn't an option then that it was it was all do it yourself just like slade slade did the whole look themselves

now i'm with caroline down i've googled them and they're not they're not me as

okay

That's a mistake, having an Eric and a Derek.

And tragically, we've actually lost two of them in the last few years.

I wanted to ask you about this, actually, Caroline, because you wrote Les McKeown's obituary for The Guardian, right? I

did, I did, yeah.