Leon Gorman

Not similar to Vanessa's with the conversation, the cues, but more kind of incorporates in-person and online, but really just about how to put yourself out there and get a little uncomfortable with being so public with yourself, which I think is great.

Another book that Hiromi recommends is L.L. Bean, The Making of an American Icon by Leon Gorman.

It's a great insight on traditional ways of doing business and how it has evolved to catch up with modern times.

This sounds super interesting also because L.L. Bean is one of those like iconic brands that has been around for a really long time.