Yet here is the left suggesting that it is Danny Tomo who should be arrested.

Yeah, I mean, it's nonsensical.

And it's not just the people traffickers who are criminal.

These men who are coming across, they know that it's illegal entry of a country.

They know that it's a crime.

In a lot of countries, that would get you a serious jail sentence.

If you tried to enter Saudi Arabia illegally, some Ethiopian men tried to enter Saudi Arabia illegally, and they were machine gunned at the border.

How on earth can we trust our authorities when they will not get real about the terror threat? And how are the Jewish community in Manchester meant to go ahead with their celebrations again? Absolutely.

And that really gets them angry.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, I think Jews are seen as the ultimate white person by people on the left, you know, because of what you said, because they're successful.

If you look at, you know, if you look at banking, entertainment, you know, my agent is Jewish.

I'm pretty sure if I had an accountant, he would be Jewish, you know, a lot of the...

A lot of the top positions.

And part of that is cultural because a lot of Jewish people have a strong family culture and a strong educational culture.

Am I right to assume that?

Be very, very afraid.

Absolutely.

And we've seen in the last week, we've seen footage from the Peak District, from Flandudno in Wales.

I don't know if I pronounced that properly.

I probably didn't.

But from all these beauty spots in the countryside that have now been taken over by ethnic minorities.

I mean, I say minority, as I say, in a lot of parts of the UK, they're not minorities anymore.

Because you need to have a broad coalition if you want to win an election.

Mm.

Look at Anne Widdecombe.

These, these, these assassinations don't happen in a vacuum.

They happen in a, in a, um, in a, in a context where the target has been completely dehumanized.

Nobody on the right was doing that to Jason Arday.

We all found it amusing.

And I personally thought that Jason Arday had a fantastic career ahead of him.

What was discussed? Is our safety at threat? I mean, if they're, if, if they're talking about the nuclear codes, we need to know.

What do you think to that counter?

Yeah, I mean, I suppose there's a point that it doesn't exactly align along.

Yeah, it doesn't exactly map.

But I mean, I think the overall hypocrisy is there.

And I just don't understand why people can't see that.

I mean, I think the idea of civic nationalism, which is essentially what he's promoting, is a great ideal.

It's a great ideal, but you can't say that anybody who moves to Britain and has British values can automatically become British because then what happens if 2 billion people from the third world move to Britain, as we're seeing at the moment? What happens if millions and millions of people from the third world move to Britain? Then we see the values-based system.

But you're right, they basically see it as white oppression, don't they? They don't see any distinction.

Actually, this is a very popular idea, and if it looks like Nigel Farage is not even prepared to pick up the phone to Rupert Lowe, don't you think that this could end up damaging Reform UK far more than Restore Britain?

Well, I think, I think there's a pair of them in it, a pair of them acting like schoolgirls.

Uh, you know, posting text messages that they received saying, "Nigel said he'd call me and then he didn't call me." And Nigel will say, "Well, Rupert's a liar." It's like, come on, this is damaging both of you.

This is damaging both of you.

And I understand there's some bad history there.

Uh, obviously, Rupert was in Reform and then, you know, for whatever reason, uh, you know, the, they, they decided he, he had to be excommunicated and, and they did it in a, in a quite underhand way, uh, you know, with the allegations of bullying, and I think the police were involved.

So, you know, there's, there's bad blood there.

Zach Polansky are describing this as a story of racism? I mean, he is bang to rights.

the arguments for mass migration don't stack up.

They say, we need it to sustain our economy because people are retiring and we're not having enough babies.

We're not having enough young people to sustain it.

It's like, well, that's not a sustainable system if you're just bringing in more people.

What happens when you run out of people to bring in? And also, the people that you're bringing in they're not always net contributors to the economy.

And I know some of that is offset by the fact that if somebody is doing a low paid job, it can free up somebody else to do a higher paid job.

even worse, though, because it suggests that a lot of people who are British, if you're someone who cares about whatever it means to have British values, democracy, liberty, and all that, they're leaving.

Yeah, and also economically, the people who are leaving are the people who've made enough money to leave.

Is it then in the sort of nicer circuits or the better circuits, you're not persona non grata? Yeah, I mean, I was still...

I mean, the thing is, I hardly gig anymore because I'm just busy with GB News.

I'm busy with my YouTube stuff.

And also, I've got a kid now.

So it's funny.

I think Woody Allen said, you know, the... a pram in the hallway is the death of comedy and I never thought that'd be true I thought I'd still want it but as soon as as soon as you got a kid you just want to stay in with the kid in the evening and not and you know play with the kid instead of going and making people you get all the like I used to because people do comedy purely for the sort of ego validation of having a room full of people laughing did Woody Allen do the kid play did he take that too far Yeah, I mean, he probably said that before he did other things and said other things.

[laughs]

... "Oh my God, you know, Keir Starmer has been so, so right wing." No, people, people don't want that.

But Andy Burnham is, is basically saying, you know, "We're gonna, we're gonna return to the '70s.

We're gonna have nationalization of industry.

Uh, it's, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a problem.

We're gonna have higher taxes.

We're gonna have, uh, more splurging on, on welfare." But part of being extra, uh, left-wing, uh, is what we've seen under, you know, far left governments in East Germany or, or the Soviet Union, uh, is, uh, is where the, the population is closely monitored by secret police.

Do you think there's any realistic threat to Farage's leadership as Jacob Rees-Mogg seems to be suggesting there?

James Acaster is

definitely the...

Because this is the thing, James Acaster, Frankie Boyle, and Stuart Lee, all very safe opinions.

Just safe comedy.

Just like, oh, what's acceptable? What's within the boundaries of your average guardian reader? And then they do...

Stuff like that.

Some of it's really good.

Women have got, the only standard women have got

And the fact that Hugh Grant was actually on the campaign trail with Andy Burnham, I think is a very worrying sign.

Yeah, and these plans are, um, they're not just bad for democracy.

Democracy flourishes when, uh, when information is, is democratized and, and people can, uh, produce their own information, when you get independent, uh, journalists and, and outlets reporting on things.

You know, when, when the, the information is just controlled in one central, uh, one central broadcaster, uh, as, as we saw in the Soviet Union, as we see in, in North Korea, that's, you know, that's when you don't get democracy, you don't get the scrutiny and oversight of, of government and its processes and its, its ideas that are quite often terrible.

I mean, this idea that we should bring people from Rwanda to Britain is obviously a terrible idea.

We've seen this, uh- ... uh, uh, emblemified in, in the actual Ru de Cabana attack.

Um, and like you say, peop- people aren't taking to the streets because, because of something they've seen, uh, that's false.

Is he saying, as our monarch, that the UK is no longer a Christian country? Because that is terrifying and chilling to many of us.

Yeah.

It's like, I don't know, multiculturalism.

This is another one of these things that, you know, one of these social things.

I was always told multiculturalism is amazing, and it's, it's so good for society and, you know, oh, we get this delicious food and blah, blah, blah.

And then you see stuff like cousin marriage or grooming gangs, and you really see the difference in culture.

It's not just, like, you know, the, you know, people have different food.

It's like some of these attitudes go, you know, right down to very core principles.

Mm

Great.

You need a sort of Dominic Cummings next to you who's, you know, going in there, knows all the nuts and bolts and what levers to pull.

'Cause this, I mean, this is the problem.

Even Keir Starmer, who's an absolute, you know, Borg-like, you know, uh, just automaton, he was saying how impossible it is to get anything done.

You pull one lever and nothing happens, and, you know, three levers get pulled over here.

So, you know, uh, actually making the apparatus of government do anything that you want, any of the things that you've promised voters is, is pretty much impossible.

But I think parliamentary democracy and government is kind of losing legitimacy and is also losing, it's sort of drifting away in terms of like what it actually does, uh, which is weird considering it's, it's bigger.

The, the Japanese director of Seven Samurai.

to him?

Yeah, the pronoun thing.

I mean, I can't even remember what David Tennant, he was having a beef with JK Rowling.

And basically David Tennant's got a trans kid.

Is that true? Yeah, or non-binary or whatever, some sort of made-up thing.

So David Tennant is never going to let go of the...

He's never going to turn around and be like, hey, maybe this trans thing is a load of bollocks.

Have you noticed

Leo Kearse, can you believe what you're hearing?

No, it's, I mean, it's disgusting.

Uh, the, uh, especially like Rhiannon, Rhiannon White, for, for a protester, for a left-wing protester to say that she deserved it.

I mean, Rhiannon was, was working, was helping the man, was, was helping migrants.

Uh, she absolutely, you know, of anybody, absolutely did not deserve this.

She, you know, she, uh, she, she put her, put her life in risk to, to, to help these people.

And that's how she was rewa- rewarded by, by that, that despicable man, who, uh, stabbed her, uh, with a screwdriver and then danced and went to the off license and, and bought beers with no, no sort of, uh, remorse or even, uh, awareness that he'd done something wrong.

[laughs] Yes.

We'll go with you now.

Brilliant.

Hello.

It's good to see so many autistic white people in one room.

And as they say in London, ala Akbar.

It's great to be here.

Comedy.

Yes.

Calm down, mate

... was crying about the institutional bias that's in, that's in the UK, the institutional bias against, against, you know, Black people, against minorities, uh, when the real institutional bias, uh, is actually against white people.

So about 25 years ago, 30 years ago, Stephen Lawrence, uh, a young Black man, was killed in London and, uh, the police didn't deal with it well.

And as a result of that, the, and the Macpherson report that, that sprung from it, as a result of that, we had, we had this, uh, this, this ideology embedded right across the public sector, across policing.

I worked in policing.

I was a criminal intelligence analyst, so I saw this, you know, this, this being implemented.

Uh, and it, it basically said that, you know, any evidence of any, any, a- any over-representation of Black people in the prison system or in the criminal justice system was evidence of racism against them.

I mean, this shows this huge anger, doesn't it?

Yeah

... was that Tommy Robinson was a, was a racist.

Then you meet Tommy, and you see the people Tommy's friends with, uh, and you, you see the things that Tommy says, the beliefs that he holds, and he- you know, may- maybe he's got some other faults, but [laughs] but racism isn't one of them.

And in fact, the genuine far right in Britain, uh, criticized Tommy for, for not being racist, for not being an ethno-nationalist.

You know, Tommy Robinson is a civic nationalist.

And for, for Tommy to be held up as this sort of, uh, you know, somehow uniquely, uh, evil and dangerous threat, that's an absolute nonsense.

I mean, at this point, Tommy Robinson is probably one of the safest off-ramps for the, for the growing and understandable, uh, rise in anger and nativist sentiment by British people who've- who've seen what's happened to their country, who, you know, as Tom- Tommy points out, we've had people imported into the country, millions and millions of people, uh, because they're gonna be, uh, they're- they're gonna be clients of the state.

Cerulean Sword, who's just, uh, uh, been live on the super chat says, "I honestly struggle to imagine anything more glorious than BBC News announcing that Andy Burnham lost his by-election to Restore Britain." And I do agree with that, but Leo Kearse, presumably you think, 'cause you're a little bit more pro-Reform probably, you think that this is a bad move by Restore because you're, you're, you're making it less likely that Reform are going to win.

Can you respond directly to the criticism from Rupert Lowe, who says this is abhorrent?

Well, Rupert Lowe's one to be talking about playing party politics.

He's criticizing this plan because of party politics, because another party is doing it.

This is, I mean, this is obviously a good idea.

What people don't understand about it, they think it's punishing these green areas.

It's not.

It's rewarding them.

And Britain is a racist country as a result? I mean, I thought this story was astonishing,