Lefty Kreh

Uh, you know, I'm generalizing, but when you have a new fly rod, test that out.

I mean, pe- guy- I remember reading a, I think it was a Lefty Kreh article, who said, "Hey, hey, stick the fly in a streamside log and then just start pulling until it breaks, and then you'll understand where, where your breaking strength really is." Great.

And so that's sort of what I'm setting up with people there, where I put the fly on the hemostat.

So many people go, "Oh, I'm not pulling anymore.

Yeah.

But don't wait until fish gets on to try it.

Do what Lefty Kreh said there and put it in a streamside log or whatever the case.

Have your buddy with a hemostat.

I couldn't work with Sage, 'cause they wouldn't, they wouldn't let anybody design any...

I mean, Lefty Kreh, the day I hired in, he goes, "I'll never take any advice from you." He says, "Just gonna give you your paycheck and go." I was out.

Based on your name on a rod.

I, I quit, I quit in four months.

I didn't wa- I just wanted to have some input to the rods, and Lefty told me that, and I was like, "You're shitting me." He goes, "No, I've been there," whatever, 20 year, whatever it was, 25, 6 years.

He goes, "Nobody ever took one...

You're not taking a piece of advice from Lefty Kreh.

You sure as hell aren't gonna take it from me." [laughs]