Lee Wylie

Like, I went in the changing room.

They were practicing, like, and Ben, Ben's brilliant at, "He does this," and Lee Wylie, like, "This is what they do.

They do this, and this is the opportunity for you." Do you know what I mean? But you've got to use your experience beyond that if it doesn't go necessarily to plan, because Ben can't save you if it don't go to plan.

And maybe Ben doesn't have all the experience in the world if it doesn't go to plan.