LDC

Kios was a very early investor.

I think Lloyds Development Capital was one of the first investors in any law firm.

But Kios, again, it's a rather different, you know, it's a different proposition because if you're in volume insurance, then there are clear ways of transformation and modernization using, you know, data, using tech, et cetera, et cetera.

That is not the case with Gately.