Lawrence Xu-Nan

If reelected, they want to bring in a raft of regulation that protects artists' copyright, at-risk jobs, and AI use in decision-making.

So Lawrence Xu-Nan is, uh, an MP for the Greens and is presenting the policy and joins me now.

Lawrence, good morning to you.

[laughs] Ata mārie, Andrew.

Thank you for having me.

[upbeat music] And now I'm joined by Greens Party spokesperson Lawrence Xu-Nan.

Lawrence, how would the Greens make this country safer?

I think the key thing when it comes to any sort of changes when it comes to crime is to recognize some of the root causes and the drivers of crime.