Law of the United States
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Oct 15, 2026
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US law wasn't built for how China's spies operate in America.
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An American journalist who spent 16 years in China as a columnist and editor for its state media was, for seven of those years, also on the payroll of the Chinese Ministry of State Security, the civilian agency that runs Beijing's foreign intelligence, counterintelligence, and secret police work.
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What made Thomas Were Pao-Kan, 251 valuable to the Chinese regime was that he could enter the United States whenever he wanted.
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Chen was asked if there's a point at which an informant crosses a line into intelligence work.
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"It is hard to say there is any boundary," he said.
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"Between informants and spies, that is, between irregular CCP personnel and regular CCP personnel, the line really is very blurred." Gaps in US laws.
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That blurred line is the one a prosecutor has to find.
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Two US statutes require it.
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US law wasn't built for how China's spies operate in America.
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An American journalist who spent 16 years in China as a columnist and editor for its state media was, for seven of those years, also on the payroll of the Chinese Ministry of State Security, the civilian agency that runs Beijing's foreign intelligence, counterintelligence, and secret police work.
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What made Thomas Were Paoquan II, 51, valuable to the Chinese regime was that he could enter the United States whenever he wanted.
14 MINS LATER
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Chen was asked if there's a point at which an informant crosses a line into intelligence work.
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"It is hard to say there is any boundary," he said.
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"Between informants and spies, that is, between irregular CCP personnel and regular CCP personnel, the line really is very blurred." Gaps in US laws.
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That blurred line is the one a prosecutor has to find.
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Two US statutes require it.
J. Kim WrightGUEST
No.
Dave AlbrechtaHOST
So it's called The Nonsense Factory, The Making and Breaking of the American Legal System.
Dave AlbrechtaHOST
I just started it.
J. Kim WrightGUEST
Show it.
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