Laura Bates

Mm-hmm.

By Laura Bates and it talks about these incel communities, red pill communities online and how they, one of her points was they will use these very tiny examples as recruitment-

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... um, fodder or propaganda and they'll say, "Women are out to get us.

Right.

And acting on that formal guidance, she ordered a nonfiction book titled Men Who Hate Women by Laura Bates.

Which is a very well-regarded resource.

Exactly.

If you've seen any of my content before, you will know that I am not a fan of pickup artists.

Laura Bates has an excellent chapter on the community in her book, Men Who Hate Women, and she compares them to incels, which I know Jack would hate because he says he hates incels.

He's not an incel.

Definitely not.

Don't compare him to an incel.

But I'm comparing him to an incel.

and Laura Bates does the same thing.

She says that pickup artists and incels actually have a hell of a lot in common because, and to quote her, "...both groups depend on the separation of men and women into narrow, highly stereotypical categories.

Another one that's really, really worth checking out if you want more information is a book.

Well, the author Laura Bates has several books on and around this theme, but she has a book called Men Who Hate Women.

I did a lot of reading on that one.

It really informed this presentation and it's terrifying and informative and worth checking out.

So Laura Bates.

So those are good places to get more information.

I would also like to note that we talk about the Manosphere, this is not all-encompassing.

And rather than like finding a way to fix them, they just say, this is women's fault.

So, in no particular order, The Authority Gap by Marianne Seigart, which is why women don't get taken seriously as men in the workplace and outside.

The New Age of Sexism by Laura Bates.

Laura Bates is really one of those writers who's opened my eyes to the different experiences that women have.

And then because I love literature, The 40 Rules of Love by Elie Shafik is one of my favorite novels.

So hopefully you'll accept three book recommendations

anyone

well i mean it makes me think about um the incredible work of laura bates and um you know i've been to hear her talk about the horrifying things happening in the metaverse and um At the end of a talk that she did, you know, when people were just like, what can we do, what can we do? And she did talk, she said, you know, lobbying, lobbying, lobbying with your MPs because, you know, even with all the work that incredible women are doing, it's just like, why aren't things changing? How is this allowed to happen? How are these images of women allowed to be just out there? You know, why is a crisp packet going through more steps of...

regulation than these platforms and apps why is that?

Well I think I mean there's so many things in that question and first of all I'm going to shout out to Laura because she's fabulous and she's done it in a very accessible way and And I'm really grateful, actually, for what you just said about the book.

finding the language in there.

And I did a little a little going back through my books and found this is from men who hate women by Laura Bates, but she's talking She goes on to talk a lot about men's rights movements in the later 70s going on up until today.

But she's talking about the groups in the 60s and the early 70s.

As a powerful new second wave of feminism gave momentum in the late 60s and early 70s, it gave rise to a men's liberation movement.

hear you.

Laura Bates, you're talking about.

Laura Bates, that's it.

She's been on full disclosure as well, if people want to introduce themselves to her work.

Final question, because you mentioned your daughter.

There are new ways that bad men are leveraging these technologies every single day.

And if you're somebody who is struggling to wrap your mind around some of this, I really recommend Laura Bates' book, The New Age of Sexism.

It's really eye-opening and really tracks a lot of this stuff from the AI world to even technology.

robotics.

A poll of 7,200 Telegram group members asked, who are you interested to undress in the first place? The significant majority, 63%, chose the response, familiar girls whom I know in real life.

This is compared to just 16% who chose the next most popular option, stars, celebrities, actresses, and singers.

And Laura Bates makes a great point here in the book.

She says, if you think of any man in your life who might hold a grudge against you or wish to hurt you, an ex-partner, a disgruntled coworker, a stalker, an old classmate, every one of them now has the tools to do exactly that in just a few clicks on a mouse.