Laura Banks

And, and so we were off and running just a little bit at a time.

And we shot for several years con, uh, fans, dealers, organizers, and Walter and George, and yes, Nichelle, uh, Wendy Duin, Jimmy's widow, uh, Laura Banks, who was the blonde navigator that s- who was there.

It was all very event focused from June '82.

And, uh, what else? And Kerry O'Quinn, the old timers will know, was the publisher of Starlog, and he wound up getting drafted to be the emcee of the talk show part of it.