Fittich's widow, Ann, had the group sit up front.

We all went to the funeral, about 35 of us.

And she insisted that we wear our green Wurtz Warrior jackets, which we all wore there.

And we sat in the front row of the church in front of the immediate family.

It chokes me up to this day.

I get choked up to this day talking about it.

King then described the seating arrangement and how one very special spot was left for a fallen friend.

It was all of us guys with our jackets.

Now, what about Democrats versus Republicans? Behind the scenes, do you find, uh, that they're demarcated like they are in public, or are they pretty much the same breed of cat?

Well, there used to be a bit that Democrats have more fun than Republicans, like to party more than Repub- I don't know that that's true anymore.

We...

You know, when we were kids, back in the old days, Dennis, we could...

I could name every senator in the United States.

When I was a ki- Honest.

In Brooklyn, New York, I could stand around on a corner and name every senator.

What?

Fittich's widow, Ann, had the group sit up front.

We all went to the funeral, about 35 of us.

And she insisted that we wear our green Wurtz Warrior jackets, which we all wore there.

And we sat in the front row of the church in front of the immediate family.

It chokes me up to this day.

I get choked up to this day talking about it.

King then described the seating arrangement and how one very special spot was left for a fallen friend.

It was all of us guys with our jackets.

It was King who suggested Fittich join the group.

We'd do a snowmobile run from Mount Clemens to Mackinac City for a Special Olympics.

And it got to be an irregular thing.

Mark came with us for 19 years.

King estimates that Fidrich, as the celebrity rider annually, helped to raise $5 million for children and adults with intellectual disabilities in Michigan.

When they knew he was coming, they would raise, one bar used to raise $25,000 because he was going to be there.

Oh,

Larry, when you're saying you're in some of these difficult interviews, can you give me an example of one that started out difficult but you were able to turn it around?

Okay, I'll give you an example.

We, there's an organization called Aces.

Aces are pilots who have shot down more than five enemy planes in warfare.

Started as an American organization, but became international.

Vietnam aces, there were German aces in World War II, and it was a social organization.

All they did was meet once a year in a different part of the world and tell war stories.

Mm.