
Landauer's principle
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Oct 21, 2026
Stanford Seminar - Generalized Reversible Computing and the Unconventional Computing Landscape
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3:30Michael P. FrankGUEST
It's unavoidable.
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3:32Michael P. FrankGUEST
So I'll explain why that is, starting with the discussion of Landauer's principle, which gives sort of the fundamental physical motivation for why old-style irreversible computing is not good enough.
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3:46Michael P. FrankGUEST
And then I'll talk about definitions of models of reversible computing that you can derive from the fundamental thermodynamics.
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4:00Michael P. FrankGUEST
Don't need that.
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9:31Michael P. FrankGUEST
And so when we, essentially when you ground a circuit node, you're dissipating all those, that KeV of stored electrical energy to heat.
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9:43Michael P. FrankGUEST
Okay, and so we really want to avoid that.
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9:46Michael P. FrankGUEST
And for a long time people said, oh, well reversible computing's not relevant because we're so far from Landauer's principle, why do we care? But look, These multipliers are real.
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9:56Michael P. FrankGUEST
It's not just thermal limits that are important, it's this large factor, larger than thermal limit amount of energy per circuit node that we inevitably are gonna have.
AI Is A FAKE: Why Your Tech Isn't As Smart As You Think
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43:15speaker_1HOST
Well, it is the modern equivalent of saying God did it.
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43:18speaker_1HOST
To simulate our universe down to the quantum level, complete with conscious entities experiencing continuous reality, you run into severe thermodynamic limits such as Landauer's Principle.
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43:29speaker_0HOST
What's Landauer's Principle?
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43:30speaker_1HOST
It states that any logical operation that irreversibly manipulates information must dissipate heat.
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43:36speaker_1HOST
The computing power and energy required to simulate the universe would be greater than the energy that actually exists within the universe.
Synthesis Superintelligence: from Semiconductors to Superconductors — Periodic Labs’ Liam Fedus and Ekin Dogus Cubuk
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43:06Ekin Doğuş ÇubukGUEST
... especially if you can lower the dependence on rare earth or, like, transition metals that are hard to source, like cobalt, reducing cobalt in batteries.
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43:15Ekin Doğuş ÇubukGUEST
One of the things I think is very fundamentally important is, um, if we can get close to Landauer limit for, uh, compute Energy efficiency
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43:24Brandon AndersonHOST
Can you, uh, explain Landauer limit?
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43:26Ekin Doğuş ÇubukGUEST
Yeah.
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43:27Ekin Doğuş ÇubukGUEST
So if you look at, um, how much energy we spend per, uh, like, FLOP or compute, it has followed the Moore's Law type behavior, but it's gotten exponentially more efficient.
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44:11Brandon AndersonHOST
Yeah, no.
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44:11Ekin Doğuş ÇubukGUEST
And the, one of the things we had to do is dissipate heat, because, like, as, as these, uh, computations are happening, it's producing heat, which has to happen, but then we have to dissipate it.
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44:20Ekin Doğuş ÇubukGUEST
So, like, if we can get close to the Landauer limit for how efficiently we do computation, that's amazing for humanity, right? Because that means now we're doing computation, which is probably one of the most fundamental things we do as humanity, but as efficiently as possible from an energy perspective, which is the real currency in the universe.