Kuzan

We saw other times Whitebeard exert himself, we didn't see that cough at all.

We've seen him cough once, you know, fighting Blackbeard, almost Blackbeard scared for his life, fighting Akainu, fighting Kuzan.

We don't see him getting exerted or weakened like that.

We only see a couple instances, and honestly you could argue that was plot to hype up Luffy with his conqueror's.

But my point is Whitebeard did not show weakness of his sickness like that heavily throughout Marineford war.

It's just his we- I would just say his speed and then reaction time was showed was really lacking.

And yet he still skirmished with Kuzan.

That still happened.

Uh, saying, "I love the sword members so much that I, that I want to know their ages and other profiles.

Are Prince and Kuzan from the same generation as Captain Drake?" And Oda goes, uh, "It's hard to say what exactly a profile is, but things like age and height seem like a good start.

Uh, more detailed character data can be found in the Vivocard: One Piece Visual Dictionary.

I don't mean to be mean and not write about it in the SBS so you have to buy it, but I physically-

... for, uh, who was a former re- rear admiral.

Uh, he's 33, and he's seven, he's seven foot eight inches tall.

Uh, Kuzan is a, is a rear admiral, 26, 5'11".

Uh, Grus is a rear admiral, 29, 6'9".

you know, but if you slow it down to like 0.25 or you view it frame by frame, you will see what kind of work the Vincent Chan star puts into that to make it look so cool.

And that's where we got like the GARP, the GARP, uh, Kuzan fight, um, where we got the handshake meme or whatever, the handshake, uh, that, that was an impact frame.

And like psycho never seen that before.

And I was like, I was, I was like, man, let me show you peak bro.

And so, you know, I'm glad that, um, I'm glad that that conversation got brought up.

Cause you know, you have to know who Vincent heads artists.

You have to know you, you have to see the, the, the Kuzan, the young Kuzan, young Garp, the handshake.

Cause like that was one of the best moments of one piece, the best impact frame.

But the Ice Guy is Admiral, it starts with an I.

It starts with an I. No. Aokiji.

Aokiji.

That's what I'm thinking.

The E. Aokiji is one.

That's the ice guy.

Then Admiral...

What is his name? We have Aokiji.

How Mapo is afraid.

I also really liked that Aokiji took off his sleeping mask to admire it.

And it's a bit of a spread page.

Whoa, I remember this feeling.

Okay, okay, okay.

I don't even think, I don't even think Aokiji popped out yet.

No, he didn't.

Okay, good.

So, um, I, this text looks interesting and looks pretty good, if I'm being honest, but we'll see.

It reminds me a lot of Kuzan.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, when something happens, this happens, right?

Sure.

With Kuzan, you trash a card, you draw a card.

You trash a card.

His grandsons are both pirates, a moral conflict that he tries to remain detached from, but that ultimately in this saga becomes inescapable, showing that justice for him can be applied on a case-by-case basis.

He, along with Marines like Kuzan and Koby, illustrate individuals whose personal morality often conflicts painfully with the institution that they serve.

Garp's dilemma is especially powerful because Oda doesn't resolve it by simply declaring one side correct.

He can't stop being a Marine without betraying one part of himself, but he also cannot emotionally accept Ace's execution either.

It is something that's decided on an individual case-by-case basis.

So a title doesn't necessarily mean that one is just.

And Ultimately, you know, we see that conflict playing through so many of the different characters in Summit War, and especially in Marineford, right? The justice that Akainu presents is so different from the justice that Kuzan or Garp present.

And, you know, Sengoku, and I feel like many of the other, you know, top leaders are much more nuanced in believing that this is something that needs to happen.

But here's the kicker.

You see, in the original timeline, Luffy was instantly attacked by Kuzan during this time and was saved by Marco.

But in this timeline, Marco's too far away, and after Kuzan injured Luffy with his ice spear, and then he instantly got hit by Kizaru's kick that was as fast as the speed of light.

This instantly knocked Luffy out.

A bunch of other lower-ranked Whitebeard Pirates tried to stop the admirals as they closed in, but they were too weak and instantly thrown away.

Whitebeard himself even joined in the attack.

In terms of the others, everyone, including Sengoku and Garp, was shocked.

The Marines started retreating as the ground turned into rubber, and when Kuzan tried attacking Luffy again with an ice sword, his weapon became rubber, and he was instantly blown away with one punch.