Kristen Denzer

And that's wh- is what I'm seeing happen.

And I've had the opportunity in the last six months to co-invest beside Susquehanna in both Tierra and Condada, and I work with the amazing founder and CEO, Kristen Denzer, there, and then also closed on the investment yesterday with Tentworld, also co-invested with Susquehanna.

So I do think that there is a lot of similarities between, or, or a lot of connectivity between those two entities, and one might start at Next Phase Capital and become Founder2Founder.

Some might start with Founder2Founder, because I have a lot of relationships with family offices and private equity firms that write larger checks than I will write.