Kojin Karatani

No, that's really good.

In other words, Longa has no historical materialist perspective at all, and But we could, I mean, you know, for the sake of a little exercise, we could, I don't know, we could introduce Karatani's book on Socrates, which does give that precise missing element where he says in Sun Raitel, the German Marxist said this as well in a different work, that really speculative thought, Socrates and Plato emerges from, um at the at a very particular moment of the unification of currency right and commerce that's the central element that makes well for for sun right so that's the central element that eventually makes a priori knowledge um uh knowledge that is beyond experience possible or speculative thought possible or or what he will call abstraction real abstraction but for karatani in his wonderful book on socrates called isonomia he makes a nice point that uh Socrates was actually a materialist because he hails from Ionia, and they were a group of philosophers known for being materialists.

And isonomia is the sort of, I guess, the central concept that Socrates introduces that's somehow novel or somehow... makes a scission within Greek thought.

And I found that interesting because the concept of isonomia refers to a form of equality that's non-representational.