Kim Williams

Whereas in Manningham, there's no one covering the local sports.

So I did say to Kim Williams, the boss of the ABC, I said, mate, you've got to set up ABC websites, you know, Eastern Melbourne, Western Melbourne, Northern Melbourne, like you've got to get some local news going on the ABC because these local paper news deserts are a disaster for cohesion in the communities which are no longer serviced by anything.

If I had a chance of that, I would say.

I mean, they haven't got enough money, but

So let's assume in a hypothetical world that there may have been some conversation or that there is a view within ABC management that this would have been a good thing to do.

I think that is reflective of The fact that ABC management, particularly Kim Williams and Hugh Marks, have gotten so much of what they've wanted in the last six to 12 months, right? They've managed to get rid of Justin Stevens.

They've gotten rid of the chief operating officer, things that we've reported.

They've blasted out an entire generation of staunch ABC senior investigative journalists and managers over the Mahmood Fazal stuff.

They did not respond to that specific question.

I asked whether Simon Robinson or Hugh Marks sought any employment law advice to know that they were on firm ground before summoning Slezak to this meeting? The ABC did not respond to that specific question.

I asked Kim Williams, the chair of the ABC, the following, quote, "'A key failure which was revealed in evidence during the Latouffe matter was that no executive or manager ever sought employment law advice before dismissing Ms. Latouffe.'" If a little over a year after that finding of unlawful dismissal, Hugh Marks or Simon Robinson are calling meetings with staff members regarding disciplinary action or dismissal without seeking advice on whether they are acting lawfully, does Mr. Williams maintain faith in the executive team? The ABC did not respond to that specific question." I also put examples that we've discussed on this podcast before.

Latika Burke, who hosts an ABC podcast advocating for the Ukrainian military.

Mm-hmm.

Kim Williams, I interviewed him earlier this year.

His mother had died, and he was giving a speech.

This is how he described it in his own words, Kim Williams, chair of the ABC.

And I read that you said you thought that she visited you after death, even to the point you're on stage giving a speech and you saw her walking onto the stage.

Was that your grief, do you think? Or do you genuinely believe that there is some visit from the other side?

Um, you sometimes do get little bits of, of other information that come through that you wouldn't necessarily know.

So there might be information about things or events that you weren't aware of, th- that rarely, ra- but they do come through sometimes.