And you ask parents to stay calm and think, "How can I make this situation, even if it's a really difficult one, into a playful one?" So how does this strategy translate to real life, and what makes it work so well?

well?Well, the reason it works so well is because you are speaking a child's language.

I think, you know, when, when parents or when adults communicate with each other, we do it through talking.

Uh, especially when you meet someone, you know, we'll say, "Hi, how are you? My name's Kim.

What's your name?" And you find a commonality, and that's how you c- grow connection, d- that deeper connection and more communication.

But when kids connect for the first time, they do it through play.

They knock on their neighbor's door and say, "Can so-and-so come out to play?" Or they're at the park, and they just start playing next to them.

Mm-hmm.

So what does that look like in your framework?

Okay, let me give you re- four quick scenarios with four quick interventions on how to handle that.

So let's say you're at the park and it's time to leave, which is a big, you know, time for kids.

The transition's usually really hard for them to do that.

So a couple quick things.

One, make it into a game, you know, 'cause you say, "We need to leave," and they're doing a preferred activity.

They're not going to do it.

And, and so in your book, is that something that you can address?