Kim Stanley Robinson

You know, it's sort of like, you know, Ian and Banks has made something without any history, you know.

kim stanley robinson was like oh i wanted to write about politics where things work and he's like i couldn't write it on earth because it comes with too much baggage yes so i literally had to set a book on mars start again fresh and then i could start writing about politics which i think would be better and there would be a way into it and the way into it was start fresh yeah ian banks with his novels again written around about the same time you're like he's like oh politics i the background of the culture is so wishy-washy but it just so happens to be the right size that it can't be damaged can't be wiped out is like self-sustaining all good everything's perfect and it just happens to have been set up that way and there's no weird back doors or there's no you know all of the stuff that could happen there

yeah

They're like, nope, don't need to worry about that.

Um, anyway, back to Trey's message.

Trey says, "One book entitled 'Twenty-Three Twelve' by Kim Stanley Robinson circles around, uh, the city Terminator on Mercury.

The city is massive and runs on tracks that keep it from the uninhabitable portion of Mercury." So I guess this would be keeping it off of the day side-

Mm

Uh, yeah, and thanks for this.

I don't really know anything about Adrian Pierce.

I love Kim Stanley Robinson, but I haven't read this book yet.

Uh, and there's actually another, uh, uh, Robinson book that I also have not read but was reading about a little bit before our episode on science fiction.

It takes centuries, so the people who arrive are the great-great-grandchildren of the people who left.

It always sounds like this grand, noble adventure until you read Aurora by Kim Stanley Robinson, published in 2015.

Robinson fundamentally argues with every other generation ship novel ever written.

He really does.

And let's see.

Oh, you know, I recommend to lots of people to read who are futurists, The Ministry of the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson.

So yeah.

The Golden Age was an accidental designation given to the period when Campbell dominated the science fiction pulp magazines as the editor of astounding science fiction.

Can we just take a beat and look at the work that has been done? So I think that's amazing perspective.

Yeah, that really reminded me of Kim Stanley Robinson's Ministry for the Future.

There's one chapter in that book in particular that always kind of broke my heart and was very emotional for me.

And the chapter has people from different cultures, different indigenous cultures around the world talking about what they were doing after some of the climate catastrophes that happened later in this century.

So it does seem unlikely that until there's extreme astrophes, we're not gonna do anything.

So, you know, there's that wonderful Kim Stanley Robinson book, Ministry for the Future.

Yeah, sure.

So it starts out with a red bulb event where it's the difference between a sauna and a steam bath.

Yeah.

Kim Stanley Robinson.

Kim Stanley Robinson.

Mars trilogy.

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Not to poo-poo work that you would do in terms of the level of what I want.

What I want is Kim Stanley Robinson to write that book.

Yeah, that'd be fun.

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