Kim B. Clark

We can strive toward this ideal.

Elder Kim B. Clark once called it pursuing a life of moral excellence with the Lord's help.

A life of moral excellence is a life of virtue.

Virtue is a pattern of thought and behavior based on high moral standards.

And so we began to talk about those kinds of things.

And then I started coming and participating, and I got introduced to Elder Kim B. Clark, who Who became, there was still a good friend.

In fact, he did the confirmation at my baptism.

And kind of a defining moment, I would say, when I was converted, I had a second year of that conference was in New York City.