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Killers of the Dream

Book by Lillian Smith

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Oct 22, 2026

Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
15:17
I mean, it permeates everything.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
15:18
And so her second book, Killers of the Dream, which she published in 1949, really was about racism and white supremacy.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
15:26
And this is where she really gets into this issue about Black nurses raising white children.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
15:31
And she honestly...

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Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
53:54
But I think at the time, it's not even a question of like, really, was she a communist? They're just using the word communist as anybody who's sympathizing with and or working towards civil rights in any kind of way.
C. Derick VarnHOST
54:08
Mm hmm.
C. Derick VarnHOST
54:09
Which I guess also brings me to the nonfiction book, which I also didn't know and felt really dumb for not knowing about, which is Killers of the Dream.
C. Derick VarnHOST
54:21
I was surprised that someone like spelled this out in 1949.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
15:41
Yeah.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
15:42
And, and I didn't mention this earlier, but I started reading Killers of the Dream a couple of days ago, and I've read the first essay where she s- she tells the story in her own words.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
15:53
And so, uh, your, your book was a great introduction and, of course, you know, she goes into a little bit more detail in the, in, in her, in her work.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
16:02
And so that scene that she draws where she's telling Julie, you know, and sh- Julie's saying, "Why do I have to go?" And, you know, there's a back and forth about, um...

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Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
26:51
I really think she's fantastic at nonfiction.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
26:53
I think that's where she really thrives.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
26:55
I love Killers of the Dream, which is, um, published in 1949, and it, um, it actually continues on a lot of themes and even picks up some of the writing that she did for South Today Magazine.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
27:06
And some of those articles, you know, sold hundreds of thousands of copies throughout.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
13:11
Yeah.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
13:12
And, and I didn't mention this earlier, but I started reading Killers of the Dream a couple of days ago, and I've read the first essay where she s- she tells the story in her own words.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
13:23
And so, uh, your, your book was a great introduction and of course, you know, she goes into a little bit more detail in the, in, in her, in her work.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
13:32
And so that scene that she draws where she's telling Julie, you know, and sh- Julie's saying, "Why do I have to go?" And, you know, there's a back and forth about, um, there was a back and forth with the mother first, and then her telling Julie she can't stay here.

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Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
24:37
I really think she's fantastic at nonfiction.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
24:39
I think that's where she really thrives.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
24:41
I love Killers of the Dream, which is, um, published in 1949, and it, um, it actually continues on a lot of themes and even picks up some of the writing that she did for South Today Magazine.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
24:52
And some of those articles, you know, sold hundreds of thousands of copies throughout.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
15:13
Yeah.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
15:14
And, and I didn't mention this earlier, but I started reading Killers of the Dream a couple of days ago, and I've read the first essay where she s- she tells the story in her own words.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
15:25
And so, uh, your, your book was a great introduction and of course, you know, she goes into a little bit more detail in the, in, in her, in her work.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
15:34
And so that scene that she draws where she's telling Julie, you know, and sh- Julie's saying, "Why do I have to go?" And, you know, there's a back and forth about, um, there was a back and forth with the mother first, and then her telling Julie she can't stay here.

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Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
27:40
I really think she's fantastic at nonfiction.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
27:43
I think that's where she really thrives.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
27:44
I love Killers of the Dream, which was, um, published in 1949, and it, um, it actually continues on a lot of themes and even picks up some of the writing that she did for South Today magazine.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
27:55
And some of those articles, you know, sold hundreds of thousands of copies throughout.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
12:41
Yeah.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
12:42
And, and I didn't mention this earlier, but I started reading Killers of the Dream a couple of days ago, and I've read the first essay where she s- she tells the story in her own words.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
12:53
And so, uh, your, your book was a great introduction.
Raymond WilliamsHOST
12:57
And of course, you know, she goes into a little bit more detail in the, in, in her, in her work.

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Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
23:36
I really think she's fantastic at nonfiction.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
23:39
I think that's where she really thrives.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
23:41
I love Killers of the Dream, which is, um, published in 1949, and it, um, it actually continues on a lot of themes and even picks up some of the writing that she did for South Today magazine.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
23:52
And some of those articles, you know, sold hundreds of thousands of copies throughout.
Evan AxelbankHOST
25:08
One of them is called Strange Fruit.
Evan AxelbankHOST
25:10
Another one is called Killers of the Dream.
Evan AxelbankHOST
25:13
Explain the story that Strange Fruit tells in a novel.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
25:18
The Strange Fruit is published in 1944.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
27:34
She shows up to the Broadway play, stage play of Strange Fruit as well to help promote it.
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
27:42
And they remain friends for life.
Evan AxelbankHOST
27:45
How was her writing, particularly with Killers of the Dream colliding, which is published a few years later, colliding with the fight against segregation in 1949?
Keri Leigh MerrittGUEST
27:58
Right.

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