Kiamichi Mountains

Sometimes I don't go out with anything at all.

But in 1997, I heard that sound, and I was like, "Is that an ambulance?" He's like, "No." And we're up in the Kiamichi Mountains, and I never forgot that.

And then the next day when we woke up, the fire was still going, I mean, like smoldering.

It was early, and I remember looking at the creek, and I was like, "That is so weird." It was a moment that was frozen in time, and I will-- That was my first what I guess encounter, if you wanna call it an, a encounter.