was born.

There you go.

When you were born, he came back to the school.

He's going to fight Sonny Liston.

So I know we're Muslims, right? And Sonny Liston, I was minding my own business, and Sonny Liston said right on worldwide television, right where I supposed to say, I'm going to knock out that black Muslim.

He wasn't even Muslim yet.

He just saw him hanging around associating with Muslims, so he just assumed he became a Muslim.

know.

You met Ali at 10?

Yes, sir.

10 years old.

He was 18, and he visit the, uh, Muslim school in Chicago.

He, he was, he was out in, um, Florida, Miami, and he ran across, uh, Malcolm X.

Well, one of the brothers had said, "Come see Malcolm X, man." He, he, he said, "But he's in the ghetto.

Ain't no Malcolm X in no ghetto." He said, "Yes, he is." So he followed the brothers to see Malcolm X.

To your knowledge, was there any informants working for the Nation of Islam?