They don't realize what they're doing, but they're causing harm without, like I said, without realizing it.

Potentially, yeah.

I mean, so it sounds like parents mean well, but the way it comes out may have the opposite effect.

So telling a kid not to cry, if we play that out over, you said sort of what happens over years and years of that, we're teaching people to not manage their emotions.

Right.

There are all sorts of problematic outcomes when children don't develop in a way that they learn to manage their emotions through the teenage years and the early adult years.

That may look like anything from Having some significant anger problems like they just hold it in and hold it in and hold it in until they explode and whether that explosion looks like they beat their spouse or they get in fistfights at bars or at work or I don't know, on the bus, on the train, in public, on a sideline.

whether they're

Why Wyoming? Any guesses?

People will tell you it's the wind.

It's kind of funny, but we have to trust what people experience.

Their experience is valid.

It's a very complex set of factors, Jake.

Let's start at one of the higher levels, and that has to do with the social drivers of health.

We know that human health is not just a factor of what you put in your body or the doctor you have.

What should it sound like? What should we do?