Is it the only way, and is it the best way? Why do you recommend starting there, Ken?

Because we've grown, uh, up in a, an America, uh, where college has become the default path to success.

That's what's been marketed down our throats.

And we're talking about, you know, coming out of World War II, uh, in the '50s and '60s as higher education becomes, um, now more of a thing, and it begins to grow, and now you've got federal dollars flowing into state schools for research and governors realizing this is great for economic development.

And then that combines with the Pell Grant, which was wildly successful, that went into the student loan program, and families began to say, "Wait, we can't afford it, but we can pay it off with a low-term-- excuse me, a low-interest rate loan over time, and so now our kids can go to college," when college really wasn't a thing for many of them growing up.

And so you combine those two storms into this perfect storm of a marketing message that says that college, higher education is the best way to success.

We saw this in the '70s in the form of a poster in many public high schools around the country where on one side, uh, was a gleaming college grad diploma in hand, the other side, a working stiff of a guy with coveralls on and a frown and dirt on his face, and underneath it said, "Work smart," underneath the graduate, "Not hard," underneath the, uh, laborer.

What's your advice there?

Yeah.

If you are leading through manipulation as a leader, you're not leading anybody.

You're trying to control somebody.

That's right.

Wow.

And so allowing to – person to see themselves with this i think it's a wonderful hiring tool as well so that's that's why that piece and i added it later on when i was first coaching it was just talent passion but i realized something the ideation of what should i do yeah with my professional life the ideas come when i know what i'm motivated by so i look at that influence and i go okay great i know that's screaming people people people because there's four types of work and i learned this from the uh What color is your parachute guy? Oh, yeah.

He's the legend.

person.

What, what do we make of Lindsey Graham's legacy, of his hi- history at this point in the, the early, uh, aftermath of his death?

Yeah, well, um, he, I mean, he epitomizes the contemporary Republican Party in his trajectory for the last, you know, two or three decades.

He was initially, um, very, very skeptical about Donald Trump and his rise, and he was, um, a critic of Trump.

Um, he ran against him and really attacked him, uh, quite vocally, um, but then made his peace with Donald Trump and in fact became quite loyal- Uh, and became a, um, you know, a, a, a major person in the Senate who advanced Trump's agenda.

Um, and this epitomizes the trajectory of the party.

This is what's happened to the party over the last 11 years, and he was really the, you know, a major, uh, figure, uh, a- as part of that transformation.

Um, so he's, he's also someone with enormous legacies on policy in, uh, in tax, in judiciary, and of course, foreign affairs.

Do you think Washington has lost some of its capacity for bipartisan deal-making as figures like Graham leave the stage?

Hmm.

And, and s- sometimes we get on kids for that, but I think that's a beautiful thing because most people are terrified of public speaking more so than death.

We know this.

This is a piece of data that's been out forever.

So I figured out, okay, I like to perform.

I like the pressure that comes with the performing.

So now I have to start to go, "What type of performing do I wanna do? Do I want to, uh, be a corporate speaker and go out and speak and be a keynote speaker? Do I want to go into some type of nonprofit or ministry work where maybe I'm speaking on behalf of a cause? Do I want to go into hard news broadcasting where you're looking at a teleprompter and you're just kinda reading? Uh, do I wanna go into sports?" 'Cause I love sports, you know.

Mm

So stupid.

And this might not be popular prediction, uh, but let's talk about Airbnbs.

All right? Became a very popular real estate venture, as you know.

Everybody thought, "This is my path to prosperity." Uh, and, uh, it's going through a pretty complex shift.

In other words, demand still remains pretty strong, but what we're seeing is, is the cheaper Airbnbs, less cost, smaller, smaller areas, you will see a continual decline, but your luxury listings will go up.

[laughs]

Low hire means we're not gonna see, uh, a hot job market.

It's gonna stay pretty stagnant.

So stupid.

And this might not be a popular prediction, uh, but let's talk about Airbnbs.

All right? Became a very popular real estate venture, as you know.

Everybody thought, "This is my path to prosperity." Uh, and, uh, it's going through a pretty complex shift.

In other words, demand still remains pretty strong, but what we're seeing is, is the cheaper Airbnbs, less cost, smaller, smaller areas, you will see a continual decline.

But your luxury listings will go up.

[laughs]

Low hire means we're not gonna see, uh, a hot job market.

Why do you think so many young people wanna start a business?

This is a awesome question, could be an hour-long special.

Um, I'll get to it as fast as I can.

I think the first thing is, the pandemic, when everything shut down and everybody realized that, whoa, a disease, an airborne thing could literally rock my world and change my life, and I don't wanna be a number on a spreadsheet and get laid off or furloughed.

And so I think from a fear standpoint, which means we wanna control, response to fear is control, so I think across the board, I'm not talking just young people, but their parents, they saw this.

So I think that created an entrepreneurial surge because people were like, "I wanna have my future in my hands." That's one big factor.

Second, this generation has watched their parents and listened to their parents, even their grandparents gripe about work, gripe about the man, and they're looking at that and they're going, "I don't know that I want to work 40 hours a week like mom and dad or, or grandma and grandpa did." Uh, I, and I see people that I watch on YouTube and they're 19 and they started three years ago and they made $3 million last year.

Why?