Ken Bates

All that kind of thing.

I mean, it's better than, because I'm old enough to remember the Bates days of them just walking up and down the Kop, asking people to sit down.

Relentlessly, they would do it.

And they'd eventually work their way.

Mind you, Luke09 is still going.

I was going to say there's a fair amount of disdain for Luke09 in the likes and dislikes.

We can probably spin this forward now into the Ken Bates villain of the week because he's got to be one of the candidates.

He's my nailed on favourite, I think.

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but proper twats mate yeah a

But it is nice being in one club city, I think, and especially when you feel like the whole city is behind you, which hasn't always been the case, has it? Like, over the last 20, 25 years.

For large portions of the Bates, Chilina era, Leeds was almost invisible in the city.

Right, yeah.

It's only in recent years that stuff like the...

people are choosing, I'll do that, or my kid will have a nicer birthday party.

These are real decisions people make.

But it's the only way you get through to the ownership, isn't it? It's literally voting with your feet, which is what ultimately, I suppose, choked Ken Bates out of Ellen Road when attendances are dropping to like 17,000 and you've got a half-empty ground.

It's the only way to do it.

This is your club.

You don't remember Ken Bates? You don't remember Ken Bates? Betsy.

I want my club back.

Go get some water.

But yeah, it's great how quickly they've downed tools again.

So our Ken Bates villain of the week, it's Bruno Fernandes, isn't it? It is.

Which you could have probably, you know, we could have saved ourselves probably 10 minutes of discussion.

Could have given it last week.

One of the things that marked the Premier League then was most of the owners in that room had been the owners who'd created the Premier League.

So you had Ken Bates of Chelsea would sit next to David Dean of Arsenal.

Personally, they did not get on.

But when it came to a consistent view about how the Premier League should be operating, essentially as a commercial operation, My job is just to make it more money.