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Kelsey Piper

Kelsey Piper

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Oct 16, 2026

Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
44:27
Etiquette norms are now sufficiently fractured or those with different norms have been sufficiently scattered that it gets harder to know which norms are in play.
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44:35
Kelsey Piper here analyzes the classic example of attempting to visit a friend in another city and ideally stay with them.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
44:42
Depending on the subculture, the dance and way of communicating the ask and a possible yes or no is very different and there is no safe answer except IYKYK.
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44:53
Quote, Kelsey Piper, "Given our blend of mores, my advice is to reach out to the friend while planning the trip and ask their advice on what neighborhoods to stay in in their city.
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45:05
Then if they say you can stay with them, say that sounds wonderful, but you wouldn't want to be an inconvenience.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
45:11
Then you're good, haven't offended any friends, and are unlikely to have missed out on staying with someone who'd be happy to have you.
Zvi MowshowitzHOST
50:31
Etiquette norms are now sufficiently fractured, or those with different norms have been sufficiently scattered, that it gets harder to know which norms are in play.
Zvi MowshowitzHOST
50:40
Kelsey Piper here analyzes the classic example of attempting to visit a friend in another city and ideally stay with them.
Zvi MowshowitzHOST
50:48
Depending on the subculture, the dance and way of communicating the ask and a possible yes or no is very different, and there is no safe answer except IYKYK.
Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
51:01
Kelsey Piper: Given our blend of mores, my advice is to reach out to the friend while planning the trip and ask their advice on what neighborhoods to stay in in their city.
Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
51:11
Then if they say you can stay with them, say that sounds wonderful, but you wouldn't want to be an inconvenience.
Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
51:18
Then you're good, haven't offended any friends, and are unlikely to have missed out on staying with someone who'd be happy to have you.
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29:03
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29:04
Kelsey Piper.
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29:06
OpenAI emphatically disputes that Jasmine, Mikita, and Tomek were fired for the reasons that the three researchers stated yesterday they were given for the firing.
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29:15
Rob Wiblin.
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32:58
If so, that's really bad from OpenAI.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
33:01
Obviously, I'm still interested in the facts if the messages are misleading.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
33:06
Kelsey Piper.
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33:07
Last week I said we should wait for more info on OpenAI's firing of safety researchers.
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12:10
There are many key disanalogies to AI, as both those intuition pumps and the ones that finish this section illustrate but far from exhaust.
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12:19
Kelsey Piper.
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12:21
Everyone likes this gotcha, but I don't think it makes sense.
Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
12:25
What if they think of Claude as, like, a horse? It's fine to have horses draw your carriages, but you shouldn't whip them half to death or whatever.
Zvi MowshowitzHOST
15:24
There are many key disanalogies to AI as both those intuition pumps and the ones that finish this section illustrate, but far from exhaust.
Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
15:33
Kelsey Piper: Everyone likes this gotcha, but I don't think it makes sense.
Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
15:38
What if they think of Claude as like a horse? It's fine to have horses draw your carriages, but you shouldn't whip them half to death or whatever.
Patrick McKenzieSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
15:47
Patrick McKenzie: For many moral traditions, the reason for why you punish a child intentionally stepping on ants uses words like stewardship and is primarily concerned with the moral harm to the child.
Zvi MowshowitzHOST
29:53
Alas, in order to use terms like a significant breach of trust and be trusted, you need to have not had many significant breaches of trust in your company's past.
Kelsey Piper and Jeffrey LadishSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
30:04
Kelsey Piper: OpenAI emphatically disputes that Jasmine, Mikita, and Tomek were fired for the reasons that the three researchers stated yesterday they were given for the firing.
Rob Wiblin, Jeremy Howard, and Stephen AdlerSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
30:16
Rob Wiblin: Overall, it's pretty confusing
Zach Stein-PearlmanSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
30:19
confusingIt seems like they did give primarily pretextual reasons, but there's something else substantive they're indicating they're upset about, and they think giving the real reason would look too bad to the public or cause some other harm to them.
Zach Stein-PearlmanSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
34:08
If so, that's really bad from OpenAI.
Zach Stein-PearlmanSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
34:11
Obviously, I'm still interested in the facts if the messages are misleading.
Kelsey Piper and Jeffrey LadishSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
34:15
Kelsey Piper: Last week, I said we should wait for more info on OpenAI's firing of safety researchers.
Kelsey Piper and Jeffrey LadishSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
34:23
That information is in, and it looks incredibly bad.
Ravi GuptaHOST
52:50
So what does the city do when faced with the amazing results of charters, superior results, and the poor results of their district schools? They say, "Actually, we're gonna cap the number of charter schools.
Ravi GuptaHOST
53:03
We're gonna limit their growth." And Kelsey Piper in "The Argument" had a really good piece about grade inflation, and I'll, I'll-- we'll just leave that in the show notes because it is just a part of a larger trend that's telling us, "Hey, grades don't really matter anymore." And the sort of trend in, in public schools, especially in blue states, is that we're gonna get fewer and fewer objective measures.
Ravi GuptaHOST
53:26
The head-- the founder and head of Success Academies, Eva Moskowitz, wrote what I thought was a very interesting piece, and this is a great counter because Eva is a parent, and she wrote a piece called "I Sent My Children to the School I Founded, and It Wasn't a Sacrifice." So this gives us a great juxtaposition.
Ravi GuptaHOST
53:44
On the one hand, we have Nikole Hannah-Jones, who wrote a piece, get a MacArthur Genius Grant, I think dominated discussions of public education on the left for ten years, and what she did was send her kid to a school that performed poorly, took a long time to figure out that that school was performing poorly, and then offered us a very flawed series of solutions for what to do about it, which is integration, right? That's one example.
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38:46
Quote.
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38:48
Kelsey Piper.
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38:50
I dunno.
Type Three AudioNARRATOR
38:51
Dario said a year ago that in one to five years we'd see huge labour market impacts.
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39:08
There's an image here.
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39:10
Line graph, U.S. arts employment showing employment declining over 200K from mid-2022 peaks.
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39:19
Kelsey Piper, my wife is a software engineer.
Type Three AudioNARRATOR
39:23
The job she spent the first 10 years of her career doing just does not exist anymore.
Zvi MowshowitzHOST
43:43
Then he says none of those people admitted they were wrong, while quote tweeting a clip of an anthropic economist explicitly saying some of their predictions on this were wrong.
Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
43:53
Kelsey Piper: I don't know.
Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
43:56
Dario said a year ago that in one to five years, we'd see huge labor market impacts.
Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
44:02
That's in the next four years.
speaker_3NARRATOR
44:12
Image, a line chart titled US Arts Employment, subtitled US Arts Employment is down more than two hundred thousand from their mid-2022 peaks.
speaker_3NARRATOR
44:23
Employment holds near one point five million through twenty nineteen, crashes in twenty twenty, recovers to about one point four five million in mid-2022, then slides steadily to about one point two million by 2026.
Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
44:38
Kelsey Piper: My wife is a software engineer.
Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
44:42
The job she spent the first ten years of her career doing just does not exist anymore.
Type Three AudioNARRATOR
16:31
Pangram AI detector showing French text rated 100% AI generated.
Type Three AudioNARRATOR
16:37
Kelsey Piper, "I think we have to admit to ourselves at this point that AI writing is generally very appealing to people who haven't been exposed to a ton of it.
Type Three AudioNARRATOR
16:46
They prefer it to human writing and react super positively on exposure.
Type Three AudioNARRATOR
16:51
I'm sure I'm going to get a bunch of comments to the effect of, 'But I hate it and can see how bad it is.' Yeah, me too, but clearly the typical person likes it." End quote.

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