Kelsey Piper
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Oct 16, 2026
“Monthly Roundup #47: October 2026” by Zvi
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Etiquette norms are now sufficiently fractured or those with different norms have been sufficiently scattered that it gets harder to know which norms are in play.
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Kelsey Piper here analyzes the classic example of attempting to visit a friend in another city and ideally stay with them.
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44:42Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
Depending on the subculture, the dance and way of communicating the ask and a possible yes or no is very different and there is no safe answer except IYKYK.
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Quote, Kelsey Piper, "Given our blend of mores, my advice is to reach out to the friend while planning the trip and ask their advice on what neighborhoods to stay in in their city.
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Then if they say you can stay with them, say that sounds wonderful, but you wouldn't want to be an inconvenience.
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Then you're good, haven't offended any friends, and are unlikely to have missed out on staying with someone who'd be happy to have you.
Monthly Roundup #47: October 2026
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50:31Zvi MowshowitzHOST
Etiquette norms are now sufficiently fractured, or those with different norms have been sufficiently scattered, that it gets harder to know which norms are in play.
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50:40Zvi MowshowitzHOST
Kelsey Piper here analyzes the classic example of attempting to visit a friend in another city and ideally stay with them.
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50:48Zvi MowshowitzHOST
Depending on the subculture, the dance and way of communicating the ask and a possible yes or no is very different, and there is no safe answer except IYKYK.
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51:01Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Kelsey Piper: Given our blend of mores, my advice is to reach out to the friend while planning the trip and ask their advice on what neighborhoods to stay in in their city.
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51:11Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Then if they say you can stay with them, say that sounds wonderful, but you wouldn't want to be an inconvenience.
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51:18Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Then you're good, haven't offended any friends, and are unlikely to have missed out on staying with someone who'd be happy to have you.
“OpenAI Fires Three Safety Researchers” by Zvi
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Kelsey Piper.
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OpenAI emphatically disputes that Jasmine, Mikita, and Tomek were fired for the reasons that the three researchers stated yesterday they were given for the firing.
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Rob Wiblin.
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If so, that's really bad from OpenAI.
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Obviously, I'm still interested in the facts if the messages are misleading.
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Kelsey Piper.
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Last week I said we should wait for more info on OpenAI's firing of safety researchers.
“Arguments About AI Consciousness Remain Highly Motivated and At Best Overconfident” by Zvi
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There are many key disanalogies to AI, as both those intuition pumps and the ones that finish this section illustrate but far from exhaust.
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Kelsey Piper.
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12:21Type 3 AudioNARRATOR
Everyone likes this gotcha, but I don't think it makes sense.
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What if they think of Claude as, like, a horse? It's fine to have horses draw your carriages, but you shouldn't whip them half to death or whatever.
Arguments About AI Consciousness Remain Highly Motivated and At Best Overconfident
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15:24Zvi MowshowitzHOST
There are many key disanalogies to AI as both those intuition pumps and the ones that finish this section illustrate, but far from exhaust.
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15:33Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Kelsey Piper: Everyone likes this gotcha, but I don't think it makes sense.
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15:38Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
What if they think of Claude as like a horse? It's fine to have horses draw your carriages, but you shouldn't whip them half to death or whatever.
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15:47Patrick McKenzieSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Patrick McKenzie: For many moral traditions, the reason for why you punish a child intentionally stepping on ants uses words like stewardship and is primarily concerned with the moral harm to the child.
OpenAI Fires Three Safety Researchers
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29:53Zvi MowshowitzHOST
Alas, in order to use terms like a significant breach of trust and be trusted, you need to have not had many significant breaches of trust in your company's past.
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30:04Kelsey Piper and Jeffrey LadishSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Kelsey Piper: OpenAI emphatically disputes that Jasmine, Mikita, and Tomek were fired for the reasons that the three researchers stated yesterday they were given for the firing.
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30:16Rob Wiblin, Jeremy Howard, and Stephen AdlerSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Rob Wiblin: Overall, it's pretty confusing
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30:19Zach Stein-PearlmanSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
confusingIt seems like they did give primarily pretextual reasons, but there's something else substantive they're indicating they're upset about, and they think giving the real reason would look too bad to the public or cause some other harm to them.
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34:08Zach Stein-PearlmanSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
If so, that's really bad from OpenAI.
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34:11Zach Stein-PearlmanSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Obviously, I'm still interested in the facts if the messages are misleading.
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34:15Kelsey Piper and Jeffrey LadishSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Kelsey Piper: Last week, I said we should wait for more info on OpenAI's firing of safety researchers.
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34:23Kelsey Piper and Jeffrey LadishSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
That information is in, and it looks incredibly bad.
The Problem with Nikole Hannah-Jones
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52:50Ravi GuptaHOST
So what does the city do when faced with the amazing results of charters, superior results, and the poor results of their district schools? They say, "Actually, we're gonna cap the number of charter schools.
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53:03Ravi GuptaHOST
We're gonna limit their growth." And Kelsey Piper in "The Argument" had a really good piece about grade inflation, and I'll, I'll-- we'll just leave that in the show notes because it is just a part of a larger trend that's telling us, "Hey, grades don't really matter anymore." And the sort of trend in, in public schools, especially in blue states, is that we're gonna get fewer and fewer objective measures.
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53:26Ravi GuptaHOST
The head-- the founder and head of Success Academies, Eva Moskowitz, wrote what I thought was a very interesting piece, and this is a great counter because Eva is a parent, and she wrote a piece called "I Sent My Children to the School I Founded, and It Wasn't a Sacrifice." So this gives us a great juxtaposition.
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53:44Ravi GuptaHOST
On the one hand, we have Nikole Hannah-Jones, who wrote a piece, get a MacArthur Genius Grant, I think dominated discussions of public education on the left for ten years, and what she did was send her kid to a school that performed poorly, took a long time to figure out that that school was performing poorly, and then offered us a very flawed series of solutions for what to do about it, which is integration, right? That's one example.
“AI #188: Gemini Dot Argon” by Zvi
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Kelsey Piper.
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I dunno.
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Dario said a year ago that in one to five years we'd see huge labour market impacts.
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There's an image here.
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Line graph, U.S. arts employment showing employment declining over 200K from mid-2022 peaks.
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Kelsey Piper, my wife is a software engineer.
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The job she spent the first 10 years of her career doing just does not exist anymore.
AI #188: Gemini Dot Argon
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43:43Zvi MowshowitzHOST
Then he says none of those people admitted they were wrong, while quote tweeting a clip of an anthropic economist explicitly saying some of their predictions on this were wrong.
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43:53Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Kelsey Piper: I don't know.
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43:56Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Dario said a year ago that in one to five years, we'd see huge labor market impacts.
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44:02Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
That's in the next four years.
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Image, a line chart titled US Arts Employment, subtitled US Arts Employment is down more than two hundred thousand from their mid-2022 peaks.
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Employment holds near one point five million through twenty nineteen, crashes in twenty twenty, recovers to about one point four five million in mid-2022, then slides steadily to about one point two million by 2026.
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44:38Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Kelsey Piper: My wife is a software engineer.
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44:42Kelsey PiperSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
The job she spent the first ten years of her career doing just does not exist anymore.
“AI #187: Coming Into Play” by Zvi
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Pangram AI detector showing French text rated 100% AI generated.
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Kelsey Piper, "I think we have to admit to ourselves at this point that AI writing is generally very appealing to people who haven't been exposed to a ton of it.
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They prefer it to human writing and react super positively on exposure.
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I'm sure I'm going to get a bunch of comments to the effect of, 'But I hate it and can see how bad it is.' Yeah, me too, but clearly the typical person likes it." End quote.
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