Kelly Needham

I do think that matters.

And to just model this quickly for you, I just want to go on public record and say that even though Kelly thinks Gladiator is better than Braveheart, which is a fool's errand.

I knew it.

Even though she feels that, And even though it's not grounded in anything meaningful, certainly not grounded in the footage of the films, I want to go on record and say, I love her,

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especially in the church i think he has some nuance around the home but yes

okay so um but he's starting in the old testament in genesis and doing this deep dive on women in the kingdom of god and here's what is so um One of the things I enjoyed a lot about the book as a woman is I think he highlighted the beauty and glory of women in God's kingdom and the extremely valuable and irreplaceable role that they have in the kingdom, which I'm like 100% yes to.

But it has been very rare for me as a woman to hear a man talk about that.

Mm-hmm.

So I think there was something so wonderful about a pastor, a New Testament scholar, a man coming to these texts and just going, look at what is happening in this text or in this part of the Old Testament and just highlighting the glory of that.

And as a woman, I resonated with that.

I was like, amen.

Yes to that.