So tell me about robins, Kelly.

Oh, I just love them.

And I know what they're kind of thinking behind them is that they are visitors or messengers.

And that's what I really believe.

So if I'm out and about and I see one, I think it could be my mum, it could be other people who've died, it could be Ben, that sort of thing.

And I had a really special kind of experience a couple of years back when I was, again, going through a bit of a rocky phase with various things.

And we were visiting my uncle at the time.

Yeah.