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Uh, good evening.

The motion tonight is that Britain no longer has free speech, and the important words are no longer.

Uh, we've never had absolute free speech.

We've had blasphemy laws, censorship, but freedom does not have to be absolute to be real, and it does not have to disappear completely before we're allowed to notice that we are losing it.

Freedoms can expand and freedoms can contract.

So here is my test.

I- is it not just the case that the, the police have just been a bit stupid?

Do you think it's because women tend to be a bit more compassionate, a bit more empathetic? Why do you think it is that women are falling into this trap of hurting their own rights?

Okay, so I've thought about this so much because I don't get it.

Now, I'll rub people up the wrong way and speak rather than shut up.

I don't think that's that common for women.

And I think men can do it because men don't rub each other up the wrong way by saying something that someone doesn't like, but women do.

There is a, there is a consistent checking of other women's behavior and it's all, this is so bad, but I think it's true.

It's all about envy and competition.

Do you think that's causing that kind of confusion of the, I suppose, this general gender ideology for people?

Where does this end?

Well, I think there's many ways, you know, you've got some parties that are talking about, you know, send everybody home in a heartbeat, which I think would be impossible.

I think we make this a far less comfortable place for people that are first, second, maybe even third generation immigrants to be here and not be prosperous.

Now, if you're prosperous and you bring something, then I guess to a degree, your religion doesn't really matter.

And I'm happy to start restricting benefits of all sorts, including NHS.

I'd like to change a whole system of the NHS, so that's a different conversation.

But I think we could make it less easy to come here and bring like 15 of your cousins and four wives and so on.

But it is interesting how you can't have that same conversation in England, how there is a different standard that applies at least amongst the progressive elite.

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... out for your arrest if you didn't attend this voluntary interview.

And for most law-abiding people who aren't used to kind of just how, um, terrifying the police have become.

Like, they have, they have become the thought police.

Um, we know they don't come for other things.

So if you're burgled, they're not coming out.

If, even if sometimes there's somebody in your house, the police don't come out.

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... with, with any single person that is involved or participates in any way, shape or form at Unite the Kingdom, and it, it has to be recognized as one of the only, if not the only movement in town when it comes to really fighting this, uh, for ordinary people.

So if you love your country, then you have to come out, and it can't be passive.

You have to be really, um, intentional about loving your country and what you're willing to do for your country, and, and simply showing up is, is, is good enough.

Um, but you are gonna have to do it.

Everyone's gonna have to do it, and, um, there's no better man, I don't think, than Tommy Robinson to unite people.

And maybe some of the other distractions can just shut up.

I mean, how does this impact you on a personal level?

The UK government wants to take control of it.

Yeah, I think I have a little bit of hope because they're attacking both the left and the right.

So there'll be quite a few people on the left will also be punished for this particular measure.

That maybe there will be a bigger backlash because I think one of the things the right have often done very, very badly is we've remained polite and rule-abiding when we're being sort of bashed repeatedly over the head with a mallet.

And, you know, the Chinese have the Great Firewall.

This is no different, is it? You know, in China, you can't search up the letters, the numbers six, four, and 89.

i have no doubt that if the uk government can do something like that to stop us searching certain terms or certain names um they'll it'll be very very difficult to search them up so you know that the gloves have to be off at some point where Everyone says, right, whatever happens, we are gonna get these bag of authoritarian cult member communists out of government by hook or by crook.

And it's not a surprise that as a result of this censorship, they do seem to be struggling by having to cut staff.

Thank you.

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There's always been really devious, terrible people that wanna commit heinous acts against other people.

What we didn't used to do is we didn't used to have schools selling the ideas.

We didn't used to have people turning a blind eye.

Um, I recently did a video about PIE in the 1980s and how these two like, you know, and we think children are sexually mature, and we think they can make decisions.

And it was all, it's, it's very familiar to this-

Mm-hmm

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Um, so there are people that are willing to compromise.

So I'd, I'm just, there's a marathon and, and until I've crossed that finish line, we haven't won.

But for some other people, they, they don't mind giving up sort of 100 yards before the end of the race and do a few compromises.

I'm not willing to do that.

I, I absolutely don't think any time ever it is appropriate to give a child puberty blockers-

Mm.

I don't, no, not at all.

Are they on board with you?

I think a lot of children feel really coerced and manipulated by this.

I think they feel that they can't speak at school, that there's loads of stuff like a bit eye-rolly.

I think for boys, it's a lot easier to deal with than girls.

But being ostracized from your friendship group because there's competitive niceness amongst girls, not being able to speak up, even if there was a boy in your changing room that a lot of the girls would be doing that, I don't mind because she's fine, she's so great.

And if you're the girl that does mind and feel awful, like happened in New Zealand in like 2016, a girl got suspended or expelled from a school because she would use a single changing room because a boy was now in the girls' changing rooms.

And he thought it was like a sleepover in the movie Grease.

How

Okay, is there such a thing then as gender dysphoria?

I would say no.

I would, no, I would say no.

I think...

The problem you have with the term gender dysphoria is the word gender.

And nobody's decided what that means.

Like somebody might say it's sort of the way you feel and it's based on stereotypes of what a man should be and a woman should be.

I suppose that balance between understanding our history and biology and those kinds of roles and not trying to veer too far from that path while also granting every human being, woman or man, the same equality of opportunity to do what they want to do.

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But look, I think we're allowed to notice the things that we don't like that come along with, with the cultural, uh, pseudo, um, sort of political movement or other maybe overt, um, and, uh, cult that is Islam.

I think if, if you're not worried about its influence in, uh, places like Westminster, um, you know, I think we would have banned cousin marriage by now.

But if, if you're not concerned about, uh, little girls wearing hijab for the day at school who are not Muslim, um, and all the other things that are happening, um, halal, like I don't think you can go into a KFC without eating halal food, and it's on school menus even when there are very few Muslim children in the school.

Um, so I, I think people are just noticing.

We're all waking up a little bit.

You know, some of us have been awake for quite some time.

Kelly Jay Keen, as someone who spoke at UTK, can you just respond to Sheila Fogarty?

What's a trans widow and what happens to the children of trans people?

So that would be a woman who is married to what she thought was just a regular heterosexual man who is then gaslit, suffers coercive control and this cycle of abuse, humiliation in which their husband then identifies as a woman.

And it's a really mean and devious and abusive situation for those women and those children.

Often men who are AGPs come out Um, and when they can no longer suppress their AGP just to when their wife is out is when their wives are pregnant or when their daughters start puberty.

So those are the two sort of really big flashpoints that it's a quite a common thing that that's when they tell their wives that they like wearing knickers.

I think because when a woman is pregnant, that's such a woman thing to do that there is just, uh, an obscene amount of jealousy.

They just can't keep it in anymore.

He gave a talk at the school and met the kid there.

oh, I don't know, I'm attracted to a lot of the things that Kelly's saying, what's your sales pitch? Why should we not use pronouns when somebody asks us to use the pronouns which isn't their biological pronoun?

Well, because they're not truthful and I think a lot of people don't want to do it anyway and feel forced to do it.

So when you use female language for a man, you begin obscuring what it is that he is.

And if in a situation I said, oh, actually, Andrew, can I use the bathroom? And then you said, oh, yeah, my friend's in there.

She won't be long.

Just go on in.

Right.

What are the risks of men to women?

What are your main concerns about the ideology?

Well, prior to these particular men in frocks of the trans, I was interested in the Muslim men in frocks for a long time, for the longest time.

And then the trans stuff came on and I couldn't really talk about it anymore because then you're diluting your singular message.

But It's so wide what is wrong with Islam.

We can start with the fact that the man that they revere, that they celebrate, that is like the most perfect of men, Muhammad, married a six-year-old and raped her when she was nine.

And so the foundation of their entire religion is, which I think my husband thinks, well, it's not wise for me to say.

But the foundation of that entire religion is paedophilia.

I imagine being a woman over there, but I want to know what your concerns would be with that in mind about the influx of Afghan migrants we've got coming over in now.

Um, and I wonder at-- to what extent do you think their sexual identification, um, relates to their, to the, to their mental ill state?

Mm.

Well, I think you have so many different drivers for this.

So for, for men, I think it's, it's predominantly fetish.

I'd go as far to say as about 98% of men who pretend to be w- women do it for, um, a, a paraphilia.

And what we do know about paraphilias is if you can't enact, uh, your, uh, your sexual fetish, then it can make you very violent.

You feel very entitled, and you will do anything, uh, to try and, to try and, uh, exercise your, your sexual satisfaction.

Can you give us a bit more information on-... on the damaging impacts of those hormones and those treatments?